Two New Kit offerings from Estes

[JumpJet]

There are two new kits shown on the Estes web site.

http://www.estesrockets.com/coming-soon/


Although NOT shown or recommended in the instructions the Estes SLV has been flown with a center E9-8 with 5 outer C6-0 motors.


John Boren

[stefanj]

Very cool!

Of course they don't have to be C6-0. B6-0, A8-0.

It should be easy to put a camera in that payload section.

[foamy]

Pretty nice. Those two appeal to me. I like the way Estes is picking it up.

[Royatl]

There are two new kits shown on the Estes web site.

http://www.estesrockets.com/coming-soon/


Although NOT shown or recommended in the instructions the Estes SLV has been flown with a center E9-8 with 5 outer C6-0 motors.


John Boren

Looks like the return of the 50J nose cone shape on the 'boosters'! Is it plastic or balsa?

[Initiator001]

Another cool design by John Boren.

The -50J nose cones are balsa, Roy.

Here's the kit packaging.

[Vanel]

Estes is turning out some nice stuff! Thanks John!

[ghrocketman]

That SLV is a very cool design, John.
Looks a bit like the old Enerjet Athena; is the tube big enough for a 29mm mount ?

[JumpJet]

The lower tube is a BT-55.


John Boren

[Doug Sams]

That SLV is a very cool design, John.
Looks a bit like the old Enerjet Athena; is the tube big enough for a 29mm mount ?It should be - the listed dimension is 1.33", so a 29mm mount should fit. Not sure exactly what that would be - maybe just a wrap or two of craft paper to shrink it down a tad - I'm too lazy to look up all the numbers and see what the actual delta-diameter is.

But the first question which occurred to me is, what size motors will fit in those five outboards?! :D

Doug

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[LeeR]

I like the SLV, and for reasons unknown, I have always liked the 50J nose cone. The fact that this kit has 5 of them is giving me good vibes. :)

I have the parts for a huge Trident upscale (~2.5X), still unbuilt. The original Trident had a 50J at the top of the motor tube. I had BMS make me an upscale 50J cone, but the shape was just not right. I sent them an Estes 50J, and Bill reprogrammed the shape. I went ahead and turned my own, but did get a replacement. Spot on.

OK, tell me I'm not alone in having fixations on certain model rocket parts ...

Re: 29mm motor in a BT-55:
The thick-wall 29mm tubes are 1.21" OD, and a BT-55 is 1.283" ID. Nice fit.

[Doug Sams]

I like the SLV, and for reasons unknown, I have always liked the 50J nose cone. The fact that this kit has 5 of them is giving me good vibes. :)

(snip)

OK, tell me I'm not alone in having fixations on certain model rocket parts ...I have an entire fleet of birds using scales and facsimiles of that nosecone !! http://www.doug79.com/midgets/

That implies the SLV's outboard tubes are BT-50's. Wow, that could make quite a cluster!!

Doug
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[LeeR]

I have an entire fleet of birds using scales and facsimiles of that nosecone !! http://www.doug79.com/midgets/

That implies the SLV's outboard tubes are BT-50's. Wow, that could make quite a cluster!!

Doug
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Wow, that almost makes me dizzy -- all those glorious "J" cones. :o

ghrocketman --

I just ran to the basement, dug out the box of body tubes, and a 29mm motor tube (thick-walled) is a slightly loose fit in a BT-55. But probably 5 or so wraps of typing paper glued onto the 29mm tube would close the gap easily.

[Rocket Babe]

>Although NOT shown or recommended in the instructions the Estes SLV has been flown with a center E9-8 with 5 outer C6-0 motors.

John, that sounds exciting! You can't have too many engines and while I understand why Estes doesn't recommend clustering it, it's nice to hear it's already been done.

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[Rich Holmes]

Hmm, the SLV is NOT on the Coming Soon page, or indeed anywhere I can find on the Estes site, at the moment.

All that's on the Coming Soon page is some air rockets, and the Skill Level 1 Sequoia.

[BEC]

Goes well on E12-4 also. AltimeterThree aboard reported 767 feet.

Yes, five 50J balsa cones and a 24mm screw-on motor retainer, among other neat features.

[JumpJet]

I believe it was just by chance I saw it there and posted the page online. I believe it was just a test to see how it looked on the site. I now believe it wasn't supposed to be seen yet, so don't tell anyone you saw it.


John Boren

[Initiator001]

Goes well on E12-4 also. AltimeterThree aboard reported 767 feet.

Yes, five 50J balsa cones and a 24mm screw-on motor retainer, among other neat features.

Bernie,

Your SLV looks great!

[BEC]

Thanks, Bob. It flies nice and straight as well. Gotta love that clever pod and fin alignment jig in the kit.

I plan to fly it at least once more this weekend.

[grog]

I believe it was just by chance I saw it there and posted the page online. I believe it was just a test to see how it looked on the site. I now believe it wasn't supposed to be seen yet, so don't tell anyone you saw it.


John Boren

John,

I see Estes is re-releasing the Goblin, at least I see it listed on JonRocket as a "coming soon."

http://www.jonrocket.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_38_2_6&products_id=1273

Greg

[tbzep]

I already have several sizes of Goblins because they are cool like the DRM and are easy to do with the single color decal and the easy to turn PNC/BNC-55AO cone. However, I'm glad to see this classic return. I will probably pick up a kit or two for donation purposes and as an easy replacement if my original size gets damaged or lost, and to help reinforce Estes' efforts to bring back classic kits!

[ghrocketman]

Wonder if with Estes re-releasing the Goblin if that means the 3rd incarnation of Semroc will have to discontinue it ?

[JumpJet]

I see Estes is re-releasing the Goblin, at least I see it listed on JonRocket as a "coming soon."


I can't comment on anything until it's on the Estes web site and even then! : :o

John Boren

[Initiator001]

The "Coming Soon" webpage on the Estes website now displays the Estes SLV, Goblin, Honest John and Sky Warrior models.

[chrism]

I like the Sky Warrior, Goblin and Honest John! Thanks John B.

[Jerry Irvine]

I can't comment on anything until it's on the Estes web site and even then! : :o

John BorenBut we can tickle you till you scream!

You are doing some very cool engineering John. Rerelease the Citation Patriot. It would be okay to bag it this time. :D 24mm would be welcome.

[PaulK]

Re: 29mm motor in a BT-55:
The thick-wall 29mm tubes are 1.21" OD, and a BT-55 is 1.283" ID. Nice fit.This works great - I built a standard size Cherokee-D doing this, just needed a few wraps of masking tape around the mm tube. I even recovered it once on an F15-8!

[Jerry Irvine]

This works great - I built a standard size Cherokee-D doing this, just needed a few wraps of masking tape around the mm tube. I even recovered it once on an F15-8!
29mm Goblins work great on EJ F67 and EJ G76 motors as well.

[grog]

I already have several sizes of Goblins because they are cool like the DRM and are easy to do with the single color decal and the easy to turn PNC/BNC-55AO cone. However, I'm glad to see this classic return. I will probably pick up a kit or two for donation purposes and as an easy replacement if my original size gets damaged or lost, and to help reinforce Estes' efforts to bring back classic kits!

John (Estes) how about making one of these? (I gave my Big Brute a Goblin motif.)

[ghrocketman]

Can't wait to get my hands on one of those Estes SLV's.

Will use a spare set of Enerjet Athena decals on it as well as a 29mm mount.
I'm sure this will be as close to a factory re-release of the Athena we will get with the chances of Semroc re-issuing the Enerjet Athena almost zero.

Agree with Jerry Irvine that Estes should re-issue the Citation Patriot.
Should come with a minimum 24mm mount or even 29mm.
An 18mm mount in the Citation Patriot is a joke.

[Initiator001]

Here's a picture of the 'new' Estes Goblin.

Built, finished and ready to launch. :D

[ghrocketman]

Very Nice !

[jeffyjeep]

A BT-60 based HoJo?! AFAIK, it's PNC will be the first of it's kind (unless it's a built-up cone.)

[JumpJet]

Agree with Jerry Irvine that Estes should re-issue the Citation Patriot.


One of my favorite rockets from back in the day that I never got to own. IF this would ever become a bring back for Estes it would NEVER have a 29mm mount and most likely not even a 24mm mount. But the modeler can chosse to do what every they wish with it as they do now with kits offered from all rocket companies now.



John Boren

[stefanj]

The SLV is still being shown. Does that mean it is official.

[JumpJet]

A BT-60 based HoJo?! AFAIK, it's PNC will be the first of it's kind (unless it's a built-up cone.)


The cone is blow molded with the four spin motors molded in place. The Tapered Tail cone is also blow molded and has those same raissed areas that get cut away just like out V2 kit to accept the through the wall fins.


John Boren

[Jerry Irvine]

One of my favorite rockets from back in the day that I never got to own. IF this would ever become a bring back for Estes it would ... most likely not even a 24mm mount.I hope you are wrong about that and it at least has a 24mm mount.

I would like to also see a larger version with a 29mm mount. Same with Goblin.

Without giving speific numbers, I would like to know if any of these rereleases have outsize sales.

Jerry

[jeffyjeep]

The cone is blow molded with the four spin motors molded in place. The Tapered Tail cone is also blow molded and has those same raissed areas that get cut away just like out V2 kit to accept the through the wall fins.


John Boren

AWESOME! I'm sitting in seat 2B, drooling! (try not to get a visual on that.)

[Royatl]

The cone is blow molded with the four spin motors molded in place. The Tapered Tail cone is also blow molded and has those same raissed areas that get cut away just like out V2 kit to accept the through the wall fins.


John Boren

Yay! The old BT-50 K-27 was my intro to model rocketry in '67. I was delighted and disappointed at the same time in the MaxiBrute version. Delighted with the tail cone (which G. Harry Stine conveniently left out of his scale data!) and disappointed with the nose cone, which was a bit more bulbous than the real shape.

This one, at BT-60 size, looks like it will be a favorite of mine.

[LeeR]

The BT-60 version sounds like a really nice model. I have a Maxi HJ I never finished. I was so disappointed with the fins that I took a rasp and shredded them off the model. :)

Plans to add built-up fins never really happened. Maybe a good winter project. When I have lots of free time. (I'm delusional. My wife is retired now as well, and is a real slave driver on home projects ...)

[Rocket Babe]

I really like the SLV. Obviously make a great cluster with many engine options.

So John, how soon did you say they were bringing back the B14? :chuckle:

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[scigs30]

Thank you very much Estes
http://www.estesrockets.com/coming-soon/007236-goblintm

[Rex R]

a note to folks thinking of buying a 'Goblin', it is very easy to lose when flown on the recommended first flight motor(D12-5)...it flies nicely on 18mm motors(with adaptor), A8-3s work well :).
Rex

[turbofireball]

Did anybody notice that there is another new kit listed in the Estes coming soon area?

http://www.estesrockets.com/coming-soon/009713-pro-series-iitm-saharatm

It's another web exclusive like the Scion. Not available yet.

[stefanj]

The Sahara looks nice. Likely another parts disposal vehicle.

The checkerboard pattern will be difficult to produce.

[Initiator001]

I flew the new Estes Goblin kit this past Saturday.

Only used a B6-4 motor but the model performed just fine. :)

[jeffyjeep]

The Sahara looks nice. Likely another parts disposal vehicle.

The checkerboard pattern will be difficult to produce.
Mono Kote has checkered adhesive film. I've seen it in black, I don't know if there's blue.

[Rich Holmes]

Mono Kote has checkered adhesive film. I've seen it in black, I don't know if there's blue.
Looks like no (http://www.monokote.com/trim.html) , but there's Ultracote (http://www.atlantahobby.com/Store/pc/1-2-inch-Sq-White-Blues-1062p14337.htm). Of course a package of it will set you back nearly as much as the Sahara kit.

Or you could paint blue and then start cutting and applying white trim MonoKote squares...

[SEL]

Looks like no (http://www.monokote.com/trim.html) , but there's Ultracote (http://www.atlantahobby.com/Store/pc/1-2-inch-Sq-White-Blues-1062p14337.htm). Of course a package of it will set you back nearly as much as the Sahara kit.

Or you could paint blue and then start cutting and applying white trim MonoKote squares...

Or paint blue and use white/clear checked Monocoat.


S.

[ghrocketman]

I believe the hope for the B14 died with the passing of Carl at Semroc.
He was the only one I was aware of that was actually willing to undertake production of port-burners. Unfortunately, this most likely won't ever happen unless the rebirth of FSI (VERY skeptical to this) ever happens.

[tab28682]

Have been enjoying building the Estes SLV. Major paper transition and balsa nose cone fest....:)