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Carl@Semroc
03-03-2007, 10:57 PM
Parts to make a classy egg capsule or Boostervision carrier, thanks to Doug Sams for suggestion!
BC-1834 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-1834) Cineroc Balsa Nose Cone
ST-1844 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=ST-1844) Cineroc Body Tube
BR-60-18 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BR-60-18) Cineroc Balsa Adapter to BT-60

Thanks to John Brohm, we have most of the BT-52 tubes and cones.
BNC-52AG (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-52AG) Balsa Nose Cone Estes K-39 Semi-Scale Saturn 5
BNC-52G (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-52G) Balsa Nose Cone Thor-Agena B and SPEV

Some interesting new cones:
BC-17590 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-17590) Balsa Nose Cone Upscale of BC-1051 Old Semroc NC-413
BC-515E (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-515E) Balsa Nose Cone used on Centuri Mini-Dactyl no cat#
BNC-60Y (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-60Y) Balsa Nose Cone Upscale of BNC-50Y
BNC-55EX (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-55EX) Balsa Nose Cone of PNC-55EX Estes Exocet and Neptune
BC-846 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-846) Balsa Nose Cone of Centuri PNC-89 Groove Tube, MX-774, Long Tom, Photon Probe, Jayhawk
BC-15081 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1087) Upscale of PNC-89 SLS Long Tom?
BC-20045 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-20045) Coaster Dyna-Soar Nose Cone for LT-200


There are many more. I need a better way of getting the new releases organized!

Tau Zero
03-03-2007, 11:14 PM
Some interesting new cones:

BC-846 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-846) Balsa Nose Cone of Centuri PNC-89 Groove Tube, MX-774, Long Tom, Photon Probe, Jayhawk
BC-15081 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1087) Upscale of PNC-89 SLS Long Tom?(winking and nudging) Hey, Bill. SLS 175% Groove Tube. :eek: :cool:

And SLS Starfire. (uncontrollable drooling) :D


Cheers,

James Pierson
03-03-2007, 11:27 PM
Yeah! More Parts! :D

Hint, Hint, :rolleyes: Would like to see an upscale of the BC-760 (Jay's Tau) to a BC -13--
and I just discovered the BC-523 cone and an upscale of it would be great too.

Thanks Carl and best wishes at NARCON 2007. I hope to go to the 50th next year no matter where it is, Lord willing.

James Pierson
NAR# 77907

ghrocketman
03-03-2007, 11:29 PM
I just may have to build an Astron Omega with a Phoney Cineroc on board now....

tbzep
03-03-2007, 11:41 PM
I just may have to build an Astron Omega with a Phoney Cineroc on board now....

No need for it to be phoney. Slap in a camera and transmitter.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/tbzep/Rockets/12-27-06/12-27-2006014.jpg

Ltvscout
03-04-2007, 08:42 AM
Thanks to John Brohm, we have most of the BT-52 tubes and cones.
BNC-52AG (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-52AG) Balsa Nose Cone Estes K-39 Semi-Scale Saturn 5
BNC-52G (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-52G) Balsa Nose Cone Thor-Agena B and SPEV
Carl,

Do you have the Thor-Agena B BT-52 balsa adapter as well? A Thor-Agena B kit would be very cool also. ;)

Ltvscout
03-04-2007, 08:45 AM
And SLS Starfire. (uncontrollable drooling) :D
Now THAT would be cool! (As I stare at the Starfire kit I had Lee & Betty sign for me at NARCON 2006.) :D

tbzep
03-04-2007, 09:01 AM
Parts to make a classy egg capsule or Boostervision carrier, thanks to Doug Sams for suggestion!
BC-1834 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-1834) Cineroc Balsa Nose Cone
ST-1844 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=ST-1844) Cineroc Body Tube
BR-60-18 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BR-60-18) Cineroc Balsa Adapter to BT-60

Thanks to John Brohm, we have most of the BT-52 tubes and cones.
BNC-52AG (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-52AG) Balsa Nose Cone Estes K-39 Semi-Scale Saturn 5
BNC-52G (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-52G) Balsa Nose Cone Thor-Agena B and SPEV

Some interesting new cones:
BC-17590 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-17590) Balsa Nose Cone Upscale of BC-1051 Old Semroc NC-413
BC-515E (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-515E) Balsa Nose Cone used on Centuri Mini-Dactyl no cat#
BNC-60Y (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-60Y) Balsa Nose Cone Upscale of BNC-50Y
BNC-55EX (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BNC-55EX) Balsa Nose Cone of PNC-55EX Estes Exocet and Neptune
BC-846 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-846) Balsa Nose Cone of Centuri PNC-89 Groove Tube, MX-774, Long Tom, Photon Probe, Jayhawk
BC-15081 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1087) Upscale of PNC-89 SLS Long Tom?
BC-20045 (http://www.semroc.com/Store/scripts/prodView.asp?SKU=BC-20045) Coaster Dyna-Soar Nose Cone for LT-200


There are many more. I need a better way of getting the new releases organized!



Oh....now you go and do all of that after I buy a lathe and teach myself how to use it! :mad:

Just kidding....now everybody else can have fun like me and Sandman, without all the balsa dust to deal with. ;)

John Brohm
03-04-2007, 02:34 PM
Carl,

Do you have the Thor-Agena B BT-52 balsa adapter as well? A Thor-Agena B kit would be very cool also. ;)

Hey Scott;

Both the Thor-Agena and the SPEV use the TA-5260C; Carl shows it on his list, only with a status of "Back Ordered". It will be interesting to see whether Semroc will kit the Thor-Agena, and whether the same scheme for the clear plastic fin assembly will be used. The same kitting question can also be asked for the K-39 Semi-Scale Saturn V, now that the balsa nose for this kit is available.

Should Carl also decide to kit the Colonial Viper, then Semroc would have all four kits in play that incorporated BT-52 as part of the model.

Ltvscout
03-04-2007, 02:43 PM
Both the Thor-Agena and the SPEV use the TA-5260C; Carl shows it on his list, only with a status of "Back Ordered". It will be interesting to see whether Semroc will kit the Thor-Agena, and whether the same scheme for the clear plastic fin assembly will be used. The same kitting question can also be asked for the K-39 Semi-Scale Saturn V, now that the balsa nose for this kit is available.

Should Carl also decide to kit the Colonial Viper, then Semroc would have all four kits in play that incorporated BT-52 as part of the model.
The original Estes Gemini-Titan with the two-motor cluster used the slip fit clear plastic fins as well. I'd like to see that come out down the road, too.

John Brohm
03-04-2007, 03:04 PM
The original Estes Gemini-Titan with the two-motor cluster used the slip fit clear plastic fins as well. I'd like to see that come out down the road, too.

Well, since we're on the subject of parts, why not open up a bit of discussion here for Carl?

We've just mentioned a couple of old kits that used clear acetate sheet as the stock for clear fins; Scott mentions the K-21 GT, which also falls into the same camp. Later model kits used a one piece, clear styrene bayonet mounted fin can (e.g.: #1916 MX Missile, #1918 Titan II, #1978 Gemini Titan) to solve the same problem.

So what's the consensus? If Carl were to consider kitting some of these old "finless" kits, should Semroc stay with the old sheet acetate method, or is there some other preferred method we would like to see? Would we be willing to pay more for a more sturdy fin can? Do we even care if the plastic is clear when the thing's flying, so long as it's removable for display? Etc. Etc.

What say you all?

Royatl
03-04-2007, 03:25 PM
Well, since we're on the subject of parts, why not open up a bit of discussion here for Carl?

We've just mentioned a couple of old kits that used clear acetate sheet as the stock for clear fins; Scott mentions the K-21 GT, which also falls into the same camp. Later model kits used a one piece, clear styrene bayonet mounted fin can (e.g.: #1916 MX Missile, #1918 Titan II, #1978 Gemini Titan) to solve the same problem.

So what's the consensus? If Carl were to consider kitting some of these old "finless" kits, should Semroc stay with the old sheet acetate method, or is there some other preferred method we would like to see? Would we be willing to pay more for a more sturdy fin can? Do we even care if the plastic is clear when the thing's flying, so long as it's removable for display? Etc. Etc.

What say you all?


I would prefer a solution like a scaled-down version of Burl Finkelstein's GT
http://www.vatsaas.org/rtv/arsenal/burlrocs/gemini/titan.aspx

JRThro
03-04-2007, 10:53 PM
No need for it to be phoney. Slap in a camera and transmitter.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/tbzep/Rockets/12-27-06/12-27-2006014.jpg
Tim, didn't I just see that picture in a magazine I was reading tonight?
:)

tbzep
03-04-2007, 11:12 PM
Tim, didn't I just see that picture in a magazine I was reading tonight?
:)

You just might have. :D

Tau Zero
03-04-2007, 11:16 PM
Now THAT would be cool! (As I stare at the Starfire kit I had Lee & Betty sign for me at NARCON 2006.) :D :eek: :rolleyes: Oh, thanks for makin' *me* drool, Scott! ;) :D :p

Cheers,

Doug Sams
03-05-2007, 06:36 PM
Parts to make a classy egg capsule or Boostervision carrier, thanks to Doug Sams for suggestion! Carl,

I'm flattered. Thank you.

It's also quite a coincidence. Earlier in the day Saturday, I was taking measurements off DARS' VP Royce Frankum's Cineroc for cloning. But now, if I do a 1:1 scale, I'll be sending you an order instead :) (I am planning to do a 1.4x upscale which I'll turn myself.)

While we're on the subject of cameras, if any of you are interested, DARS' Mike Calhoun was showing some videos at the meeting Saturday all recorded using a _re-usable_, hacked CVS "one-time-use" camera. The quality was superb - much better than anything I've downloaded from the web - IOW, quite good enough to be the source for creating lower-res downloadables. After all, we all wanna be able to send Mom a link to our newest vids, right :)

Unfortunately, this camera fits better in a rectangular housing and so won't be Faux Cineroc payload. But at $30, it offers ~20 minutes of recording time - plenty long enough to sit on the rod for 15 minutes and still get the whole flight. IOW, no special launch-detect-trigger electronics are needed. Just turn it on when you put the rocket on the pad, then tell the LCO he's got 15 minutes to launch. Since there's no need for extra electronics, there's also no need to hack a start-stop switch into the camera, either. And for video, I'm told you don't need a surface mirror, so there's no hard to find parts required. I'm still learning - need to get the download cable and software hack - but I'm convinced this is a do-able, straightforward project.

Anyway, we plan to use the Boostervision gear in the Faux Cineroc, but we're also gonna give the CVS thing a shot.

Doug

Daniel Runyon
03-05-2007, 08:12 PM
Doug! I'd love to know all the detail you'd care to share on the camera you speak of! What cable do we need, where do we get the software hack, and what's looking like a good way to mount it! Is this something that's small/light enough to use with little ol' low powers? If you don't mind, start a fresh thread on this subject so it will be nice and encapsulated / searchable by subject line!

Royatl
03-05-2007, 10:43 PM
Doug! I'd love to know all the detail you'd care to share on the camera you speak of! What cable do we need, where do we get the software hack, and what's looking like a good way to mount it! Is this something that's small/light enough to use with little ol' low powers? If you don't mind, start a fresh thread on this subject so it will be nice and encapsulated / searchable by subject line!


I'll put the link here *and* start a new thread too.

http://makezine.com/07/camerarocket/

Carl@Semroc
03-05-2007, 11:11 PM
I have been working on a laser-cut plywood mount for the Boostervision camera along with a resin scale external mirrow holder to work with the balsa reproduction. Hopefully, for NSL 2007! Pete Deaver is building an Omega prototype.

foose4string
03-05-2007, 11:45 PM
That CVS camera looks like an interesting and doable project. They were selling the some wireless cameras and receivers at my local Wally world that were identical to the Boostervision
rigs. Although, I haven't looked recently to see if the still had any. They were reasonably priced...around 80 dollars or so, and are marketed as security cameras. There looked like a couple easy mods(just a screw or two) to get the little camera pod loose from the mount. Don't know what Boostervision charges for their's, I just know what they look like after seeing Dr. Zooch's in person. I probably should have picked one up when I saw them. I'll check again next time I'm in.

foose4string
03-06-2007, 12:03 AM
A little sniffing around I drug up this.....not sure what the resolution is

mini wireless cam (http://www.dynaspy.com/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=28)

I'm sure a better antenna could be adapted to the receiver somehow to increase the 600 ft LOS range(which is about the same as the standard Boostervision).