Estes- Citation Patriot Just Annouced

[JumpJet]

The next kit to be released from Estes.


https://www.estesrockets.com/coming-soon/000652-citation-patriottm



John Boren

[Jerry Irvine]

This is great news. This kit may be all decal, but it is also in the Big Bertha size and power range. The top 3 most popular kits ever.

So I guess it will have a blow molded not injection cone, and laser not die crushed fins? My mom bought me one at the Broadway department store on her store card!

Note the item number! 000652 - Citation Patriot™ Description

Decals is misspelled. Thanks John!

Just Jerry

Pretty sure I am buying >50 of them. For gifts! Spread the love.

[Initiator001]

YEAH!

My original Citation Patriot is stored away.
Now I will have a new one to fly!

[tbzep]

This just continues a long line of kits I've cloned that eventually were produced again by SEMROC and Estes. :rolleyes: :p :D

I'll still buy a couple as backups. :)

[astronwolf]

Good news. :)

[ghrocketman]

Another good one.
Mine will have the engine mount it should have. 24mm.

[mwtoelle]

Another good one.
Mine will have the engine mount it should have. 24mm.
For you, shouldn't that be a 29mm motor mount? I can just picture you trying to fly that bird on a G80 or even an F15.

[astronwolf]

For you, shouldn't that be a 29mm motor mount? I can just picture you trying to fly that bird on a G80 or even an F15.
I can't picture it. GH already told us he's out of the hobby and doesn't fly rockets anymore.

[mojo1986]

Another good one.
Mine will have the engine mount it should have. 24mm.


Yeah. That makes all kinds of sense...........

[ghrocketman]

The Astron Omega is BT60 based and is only slightly longer and is two-stage 24mm powered.
This is a rocket that always should have been 24mm.
One can always adapt down but not up.
29mm is just too much.
Rockets of this size and weight fly great from a 18mm B through a 24mm RMS F24.

Yeah, I haven't flown anything in the past 3 years, but did every year from 1977 through early 2014. Big deal.

[tbzep]

The Cherokee D is a much smaller BT-55 bird, so if your fields are big enough, go for it. You can always fly it on a C11 or adapt down to a B6 on small fields.

[astronwolf]

The Cherokee D is a much smaller BT-55 bird, so if your fields are big enough, go for it. You can always fly it on a C11 or adapt down to a B6 on small fields.
I agree with GH and Zep about the 24mm mounts. Putting one of those in just makes for a more versatile rocket.

The one Patriot I built was modified to fly the FSI F100 motor. I replaced the nose cone with a transition up to a wider payload section with clear tubing and larger nose cone. Won a prize for it at a KentCon kit bashing contest. Flew it once and it blew to smithereens when the F100 catod.

Sounds like a plan...

[ghrocketman]

Sounds like about 40% of all the F100 flights I witnessed. Cato.

[CenturiBAR]

Oh they better make a whole lot of these!

[scigs30]

This is great news, Thank you John for bringing these classics back and also adding your designs. So many classics have returned over the last few years and I have bought them all, maybe Estes could bring back the Omega too.

[dwmzmm]

I'd converted my Citation Patriot to use 24 mm engines (flown a few times using D12-5) but have used an 18 mm conversion adapter for many flights. Model has worked well for use in the Predicted Duration event in NAR Sanctioned competition.

Great that Estes is bringing back this model! Picture below is of my model on the launch pad at JSC in 2006 for a Regional meet hosted by the NHRC #365 Section.

[Jerry Irvine]

The Cherokee D is a much smaller BT-55 bird, so if your fields are big enough, go for it. You can always fly it on a C11 or adapt down to a B6 on small fields.
We tended to fly ours with Enerjet F67 motors. :)

[ghrocketman]

Cherokee-Ds or Patriots on Enerjet F67s ?
I'd think a BT-55 based Cherokee would hit over 4K' on an 80n-sec F.
We used to lose them with alarming regularity on D12-7's with the idiotically large stock 18" chute.

[dwmzmm]

Cherokee-Ds or Patriots on Enerjet F67s ?
I'd think a BT-55 based Cherokee would hit over 4K' on an 80n-sec F.
We used to lose them with alarming regularity on D12-7's with the idiotically large stock 18" chute.


Just the "lowly" D12-5 takes my Citation Patriot to impressive altitudes. I wouldn't want to push it too high myself.

[Jerry Irvine]

We used to lose them with alarming regularity on D12-7's with the idiotically large stock 18" chute.Reef the chute or use a slide ring.

[Newbomb Turk]

Very lovely Patriots, all.

My 2nd clone as a BAR, completed using Sandman's most excellent decals and just before they announced the re-release.

Edited to confess I've already bought one of the new releases and will probably buy a couple more.