Citation Patriot returning?

[jeffyjeep]

I see that Estes is supposed to bring back the Citation Patriot early next year (yay!) But looking at the image of it on the Estes website the PNC looks too pointy. Maybe not.

[astronwolf]

http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/showthread.php?t=17028

Looks like a PNC-60AH to me. If not, I'd just get one out of a Super Alpha kit.

https://www.estesrockets.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/0/6/0652_parts.jpg

[JumpJet]

It is the correct nose cone which is the same one used on the Goblin, if memory serves me.




John Boren

[tbzep]

It is the correct nose cone which is the same one used on the Goblin, if memory serves me.
John Boren
Different sizes.
Citation Patriot is PNC-60AH (Red Max, Mean Machine, Screamin Mimi, Super Alpha, Omega)
Goblin is PNC-55AO (Photon Probe, Photon Disruptor, BBZ, Vigilante, Cobra 1500)


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[JumpJet]

I'm sorry your correct. The nose cone is the same as used on the Der Red Max and Mean Machine.



John Boren

[tbzep]

I'm sorry your correct. The nose cone is the same as used on the Der Red Max and Mean Machine.
Those two nose cones are on some of the most classic Estes birds. I've turned a bunch of them in various scales. :)

[Brent]

The purest out there will want the original 2 part plastic nose cone. I have one left. Maybe I should put it up for bid :chuckle:

[Rob Campbell]

Great news! I always wanted a Patriot, but never got around to buying one. This time, I'm gonna stock up!

[PaulK]

Even though I built a clone of this years ago, I'll pick one of these up. Despite the basic 3FNC design, it looked neat in the catalogs way back when, and I still like it. It flies once a year at our July 4th (ish) launch.

I've saved one injection molded PNC60AH to use on this or a Der Red Max some day :)

[K'Tesh]

The purest out there will want the original 2 part plastic nose cone. I have one left. Maybe I should put it up for bid :chuckle:

What do you want for it?

[Brent]

Not sure what would you offer. I can dig it out and take a picture. I cloned a Citation Patriot a few years ago and used one. I originally had 2 that I got off eBay. I will probably buy one of the new released kits. Never have flown the cloned kit just built it as a child hood memory and displayed it on my dresser. The decals if done right in the new kit will be worth the price of the kit I. I think the decal reproductions were in the 20.00 range.

[ghrocketman]

The bagged version of the Patriot from Estes never had the two-piece nose cone, only the boxed one had that.
Both cones are correct.

[K'Tesh]

The bagged version of the Patriot from Estes never had the two-piece nose cone, only the boxed one had that.
Both cones are correct.

To my knowledge the bagged version never shipped with a black blow molded nosecone though. I've been an owner for decades, and for years now, I've been watching ebay each time one came up for sale. I have yet to see that appear.

Another difference in the kits: The original Citation Patriot's decals also had longer red bars than the bagged version. The bags were narrower than the box, and the change was made for that reason.

[tbzep]

I believe my clone is based the shorter bagged version decals. You wouldn't have measurements on the two would you?

[K'Tesh]

I believe my clone is based the shorter bagged version decals. You wouldn't have measurements on the two would you?

Citation Patriot (KC-3) 2 3/4" for the length of the red bars... (I've a really good scan of these decals)

Patriot (0652) I've got it closer to 2 7/16" (but my I'm not able to access my original at this time for a better measurement).

Also, it looks like another difference is the Citation Patriot's decals had white bands between the red bars (and the red and blue bands on the fins) whereas the Patriot (0652) appears to have used clear film in those areas (likely done to save ink). I can't confirm this without having a really good scan of the original 0652's decals.

Here's what I've got right now...
Citation Patriot (KC-3) decals:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4356/37152638781_30f77f516f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YB3Z8B)

Patriot (0652) decals:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4367/36902518950_d2b30afd6f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YdX4dJ)

[DeanHFox]

Sure do wish Estes would sell those decal sheets by themselves... They were used in at least two of the MRN DOM models (Stratos and Nimbus)... :)

[Royatl]

I see that Estes is supposed to bring back the Citation Patriot early next year (yay!) But looking at the image of it on the Estes website the PNC looks too pointy. Maybe not.

They’ve been using these weird forced perspective renderings on all their new packaging. Centuri used to do that back in the day, but not to this exaggerated degree!