Estes Wasp #1930

[rmmcdaniell]

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This kit was one of three ESTES kits to use the PNC-55D nose cone.

The first was the Sea dart (1983-1984) We still need to get plans for this bird.

Next it was put atop this rocket, which was produced from 1984-1985.

Lastly, after lying dormant for 4 years, this mold was then used to make the cones for the infamous Strike Fighter (1989-1993).

Do the molds wear out, or do they get broken? I wish the ESTES of today manufactured a more diverse array of nose cones.

A special thanks to an ebayer who won this kit and was very kind to provide me with scans!!!!

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

http://home.earthlink.net/~rmmcdaniell/WASP.gif

Click Here! (http://home.earthlink.net/~rmmcdaniell/WASP.zip)


This kit was one of three ESTES kits to use the PNC-55D nose cone.

The first was the Sea dart (1983-1984) We still need to get plans for this bird.

Next it was put atop this rocket, which was produced from 1984-1985.

Lastly, after lying dormant for 4 years, this mold was then used to make the cones for the infamous Strike Fighter (1989-1993).

Do the molds wear out, or do they get broken? I wish the ESTES of today manufactured a more diverse array of nose cones.

A special thanks to an ebayer who won this kit and was very kind to provide me with scans!!!!

Moldin' Oldies offers this cone if anyone is interested.

[EchoVictor]

I recently found a nice little stash of these (8 or so) at a local hobby shop. If anyone's interested, let me know and I can pick a couple up.

Later,
EV

[Eagle3]

The first was the Sea dart (1983-1984) We still need to get plans for this bird.



Thanks for the scans Ryan and I have an open Sea Dart. Just haven't had the time to scan it yet.

I still have a dozen or so plans to process for Scott. Then we can wail on him to get them on YORP. ;) Til then you can wail on me. :eek:

[Eagle3]

I recently found a nice little stash of these (8 or so) at a local hobby shop. If anyone's interested, let me know and I can pick a couple up.

Later,
EV

I'll take one EchoV. How much?

[EchoVictor]

I probably won't be able to get over there until next week, but IIRC, they were around $3.50 or so. More details to follow...

Later,
EV

[Eagle3]

I probably won't be able to get over there until next week, but IIRC, they were around $3.50 or so. More details to follow...

Later,
EV

Wow! At that price you can put me down for TWO! :D

Thanks EV!

[Ltvscout]

I still have a dozen or so plans to process for Scott. Then we can wail on him to get them on YORP. ;) Til then you can wail on me. :eek:
Heh, I have a number of them you sent me already to post. I still have scans of Larry Rice's to post as well.

[Ltvscout]

I probably won't be able to get over there until next week, but IIRC, they were around $3.50 or so. More details to follow...
A hobby shop around Janesville with old rocket stuff?!? I can't believe I missed one! ;) Put me down for two as well if you would. Thanks, EV.

[Tau Zero]

http://home.earthlink.net/~rmmcdaniell/WASP.gif

This kit was one of three ESTES kits to use the PNC-55D nose cone.

The first was the Sea dart (1983-1984) [snip]

Next it was put atop this rocket, which was produced from 1984-1985.

Lastly, after lying dormant for 4 years, this mold was then used to make the cones for the infamous Strike Fighter (1989-1993).

A special thanks to an ebayer who won this kit and was very kind to provide me with scans!!!!And thanks to the unidentified provider (whistling in feigned innocence) of my very own PNC-55D. (Psst, I think I'd use it for this design *way* before cloning a Strike Fighter. ;) :D :eek: )

Thanks for posting the plans, Ryan! I snagged 'em as soon as I got home (after drooling over them on the computer at work, which is currently being dried with the aid of forced-air fans...).


Cheers,

--Jay

[Tau Zero]

Thanks for posting the plans, Ryan!After downloading the plans, I see that the main body tube for this C11/D12-powered bird is BT-55W... which I *can't* seem to find listed here at Ninfinger:

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/body_tubes.html

Personally, I wonder if it's the 18" tube simply called... BT-55. :confused: But then again, I could be wrong. :eek:


(Shyeah, *right.*) ;) :D


"A little help, here... *Please?*" :o


Cheers,

--Jay

[rmmcdaniell]

Heh, I have a number of them you sent me already to post. I still have scans of Larry Rice's to post as well.

Scott, (& everyone else)
If you haven't done do, please download the plans right now for this kit and the Thunder Hawk. I am leaving for Texas next week and will be canceling my internet service. This means the page I am currently storing them on will be shortly nuked. Once I get establised out there I will look to see what my new service will be like and will try to get them reposted as soon as possible.

[Ltvscout]

Scott, (& everyone else)
If you haven't done do, please download the plans right now for this kit and the Thunder Hawk. I am leaving for Texas next week and will be canceling my internet service. This means the page I am currently storing them on will be shortly nuked. Once I get establised out there I will look to see what my new service will be like and will try to get them reposted as soon as possible.
I've got everything here that you've posted so far, Ryan. Thanks, and good luck with the move.

[CPMcGraw]

After downloading the plans, I see that the main body tube for this C11/D12-powered bird is BT-55W... which I *can't* seem to find listed here at Ninfinger:

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/body_tubes.html

Personally, I wonder if it's the 18" tube simply called... BT-55. :confused: But then again, I could be wrong. :eek:


(Shyeah, *right.*) ;) :D


"A little help, here... *Please?*" :o


Cheers,

--Jay

Well, it's most certainly not the 18" version...

I just took a quick measurement of my one copy of that cone, and found it to be 3.75". Next, I measured the outline given for the fins, and found the overhang to be about 1/2" past the rear edge of the tube (this is going to be a fudge-figure, not exactly accurate...).

Now, taking the catalog measurement for the completed rocket as reasonably accurate, since I don't have any way to confirm it or deny it, the length is 15.40". Subtracting 3.75", I get 11.65"; subtracting out the fin overhang as just a hair over 0.5" gives me a more-likely figure of 11.125" for the body tube.

I hope someone can get a better scan of the fin, and an accurate measurement of the tube. The shape in the plan set doesn't fully match the shape drawn in the plans on page 2. I've found that Estes usually drew these reference images pretty close to being accurate, although smaller than full-size. When I enlarged that image, the shapes were not the same. Close, but no pickle.

[rmmcdaniell]

Well, it's most certainly not the 18" version...

I just took a quick measurement of my one copy of that cone, and found it to be 3.75". Next, I measured the outline given for the fins, and found the overhang to be about 1/2" past the rear edge of the tube (this is going to be a fudge-figure, not exactly accurate...).

Now, taking the catalog measurement for the completed rocket as reasonably accurate, since I don't have any way to confirm it or deny it, the length is 15.40". Subtracting 3.75", I get 11.65"; subtracting out the fin overhang as just a hair over 0.5" gives me a more-likely figure of 11.125" for the body tube.

I hope someone can get a better scan of the fin, and an accurate measurement of the tube. The shape in the plan set doesn't fully match the shape drawn in the plans on page 2. I've found that Estes usually drew these reference images pretty close to being accurate, although smaller than full-size. When I enlarged that image, the shapes were not the same. Close, but no pickle.


The tube is 12" according to the guy who sent me the scans. I thought the "WASPmeasurements" text file was included in the zip file I uploaded? No??

As for the fins, if you look on page 2 each of the three fins they illustrate look to be significantly different from each other. Especially the two fins that are the largest (closest to your view). See how in the leftmost fin, the edge opposite to the root edge is bigger than the edge adjacent to the root edge. In the rightmost fin it is vice-versa.

I think the most maddening case of innacurate fin drawings in the instructions was the Galactic Taxi. If you've ever built one of those.

[rmmcdaniell]

As for the fins, if you look on page 2 each of the three fins they illustrate look to be significantly different from each other. Especially the two fins that are the largest (closest to your view). See how in the leftmost fin, the edge opposite to the root edge is bigger than the edge adjacent to the root edge. In the rightmost fin it is vice-versa.



Actually, my reference is to page 1 where all the parts are shown. I think I miss-named page 1 and 2 in the .zip file. My Bad.

[Tau Zero]

The tube is 12" according to the guy who sent me the scans. I thought the "WASPmeasurements" text file was included in the zip file I uploaded? No??I was browsing those files with a photo program, which (of course) ignored the text files. :o But I see the measurements for the foil wrap are included, too. :D :cool:

Sorry, and cheers,

--Jay

[Tau Zero]

I'll need to re-edit this message later. Here you go in the meantime.


Cheers,

--Jay

[CPMcGraw]

The tube is 12" according to the guy who sent me the scans. I thought the "WASPmeasurements" text file was included in the zip file I uploaded?

Text file...?

Who reads stinkin' text files...? :D

(A Brief Pause for simulated emphasis...)

...Oh, THAT text file...! :o

As for the fins, if you look on page 2 each of the three fins they illustrate look to be significantly different from each other. Especially the two fins that are the largest (closest to your view). See how in the leftmost fin, the edge opposite to the root edge is bigger than the edge adjacent to the root edge. In the rightmost fin it is vice-versa.

Perspective drawing was always my weak spot in archetectural drafting class back in HS. I was looking at the fin outline where Estes was identifying the edges. I find these to be usually dead-on, they're just not to scale.

Once again, catalog length and production length seem to be two diametrically opposed concepts... :mad:

Mounted the way the plans show, the final length of the model comes to about 16.25", since there's still about a half-inch trailing the edge of the tube.

What we could use is a scan of the fin sheet from an unbuilt kit, with the edges marked in ink...

[Tau Zero]

Text file...?

Who reads stinkin' text files...? :D

(A Brief Pause for simulated emphasis...)

...Oh, THAT text file...! :o

(sedate high five) You and me both. :D ;) :eek:


--Jay

[EchoVictor]

Wow! At that price you can put me down for TWO! :D

Thanks EV!


A hobby shop around Janesville with old rocket stuff?!? I can't believe I missed one! ;) Put me down for two as well if you would. Thanks, EV.

Guys,

I finally made it out to do some shopping tonight. Two PNC-55D nose cones each, as requested!

I apologize for underestimating, but the price on one pair was $4.13 each, and on the other pair was $4.29 each. I'll combine one of each price so that the pairs will be $8.42 + tax each. E-mail or PM me with your addresses so I can calculate shipping.

Thanks,
EV