ENERJET Nike Smoke won on Ebay !

[ghrocketman]

I just won the auction for the original Enerjet (real smoker-not regular Centuri kit) Nike Smoke on ebay ! :D :D :D
I know you collector purists will cringe when you hear this, but I am going to BUILD and FLY it !!!!!
I can't wait ! :D
Got a bargain on it too !
(at least less than the $300 I have seen them go for)

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

I just won the auction for the original Enerjet (real smoker-not regular Centuri kit) Nike Smoke on ebay ! :D :D :D
I know you collector purists will cringe when you hear this, but I am going to BUILD and FLY it !!!!!

Excellent!!! Be sure to post pics when it arrives. Give some thought to doing an EMRR review. This is a rare opportunity. :cool:

[SEL]

I just won the auction for the original Enerjet (real smoker-not regular Centuri kit) Nike Smoke on ebay ! :D :D :D
I know you collector purists will cringe when you hear this, but I am going to BUILD and FLY it !!!!!
I can't wait ! :D
Got a bargain on it too !
(at least less than the $300 I have seen them go for)


Nice catch! If you scan the plans and send them into Scott, he can replace the not so great copy of the plans I sent him that are on his site. Also, if you could confirm (or deny) that the 'smoke' tube is a BT5 or equivilent, that would help too.

Thanks,

Sean

[Royatl]

I just won the auction for the original Enerjet (real smoker-not regular Centuri kit) Nike Smoke on ebay ! :D :D :D
I know you collector purists will cringe when you hear this, but I am going to BUILD and FLY it !!!!!
I can't wait ! :D
Got a bargain on it too !
(at least less than the $300 I have seen them go for)


While we're on the subject, did anyone ever have, as I did, the first Centuri version where the nose cone was two vacuformed halves instead of a blow-mold?

[Ltvscout]

I just won the auction for the original Enerjet (real smoker-not regular Centuri kit) Nike Smoke on ebay ! :D :D :D
I know you collector purists will cringe when you hear this, but I am going to BUILD and FLY it !!!!!
I can't wait ! :D
Got a bargain on it too !
(at least less than the $300 I have seen them go for)
Congrats! I was planning on bidding on that myself, but got caught up with some family stuff so missed the end of auction. Yes, you got it for a good price. Please scan everything for me to post on YORP.

[Ltvscout]

While we're on the subject, did anyone ever have, as I did, the first Centuri version where the nose cone was two vacuformed halves instead of a blow-mold?
I've still got one down in this mess somewhere.

[ghrocketman]

Once I get the kit I will confirm/deny if the smoker tube is BT-5 size; I saw one of these kits in the past and seem to remeber it was NOT BT-5 size, but more like Estes BT-3 (1/70 Sat 1B/Little Joe II escape tower spike tube size).
I know the kit does not have the header panel.
Unfortunately I do not have a scanner; I may be able to locate one though (Kinko's ?)
The only thing that would need to be scanned is the instructions right ?
I could measure any unique parts/take digital photos and provide those.

[Ltvscout]

Once I get the kit I will confirm/deny if the smoker tube is BT-5 size; I saw one of these kits in the past and seem to remeber it was NOT BT-5 size, but more like Estes BT-3 (1/70 Sat 1B/Little Joe II escape tower spike tube size).
I know the kit does not have the header panel.
Unfortunately I do not have a scanner; I may be able to locate one though (Kinko's ?)
The only thing that would need to be scanned is the instructions right ?
I could measure any unique parts/take digital photos and provide those.
I see you're in MI. Buzz Nau is in MI also and he could scan it for you. The fins and any other templates would need to be scanned as well to get proper dimensions. Digital pics of the nose cone showing how the smoke tube fits into it and how the smoke exits would be very beneficial.

[ghrocketman]

The fins are exactly the same as the standard Centuri kit so I don't think a scan of those will be needed...I will compare to the Centuri Nike-Smoke just to be sure; the only things that are different in the Enerjet version are the 29mm motor mount and the "smoker" system.
Even the Nose Cone is the same....really this is just a Centuri Nike Smoke with some additional parts.
I really doubt that this will ever be flown on a 29mm ANYTHING.
More likely I will fly using a Semroc 24mm adapter.

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

I see you're in MI. Buzz Nau is in MI also and he could scan it for you. The fins and any other templates would need to be scanned as well to get proper dimensions. Digital pics of the nose cone showing how the smoke tube fits into it and how the smoke exits would be very beneficial.
Don't forget the face card. ;)

[ghrocketman]

It unfortunately does not have the Face Card/Header Panel !

[ghrocketman]

I received the Enerjet Nike Smoke today.
The "smoker" tube IS in fact BT-5 sized, not the BT-3 that I recalled was in the previous Nike-Smoke I examined.
I will take measurements/digital pics of all the parts before I assemble the kit.
A couple of things that I found curious about the kit:
1) the shock cord is "Standard" Centuri 1/8" shock cord, but it is 4 FEET LONG !
2) the shock cord anchor looks like a standard centuri anchor except it is 2X scale !
3) the silk 'chute is about one of the best I have EVER seen as a stock chute

The only bad thing about the kit other than it missing the face card is that the 2"x 1/8" launch lug is missing.

The nose cone/ balsa 1/8" fins are EXACTLY the same as the "regular" Centuri Nike Smoke kit I have....might have to re-think the fin attachment method...they show no "glue rivets" or anything stronger than "Regular" model (not mid-power) rocket wood glue & fillet attachment....how could this possibly work for more than 1 flight on a 80 n-sec F67-9 ?
I'm thinking of using epoxy fillets as a minimum and coating each fin with epoxy to stiffen them.

According to the instructions, one is supposed to use a steel 1/8" x 36" rod for launching this kit.
Seems awfully small for a 80 n-sec F67-9 doesn't it ????

As the lug is missing, I'm going to go with a more SANE lug size of 3/16" even though it technically is not corect for the kit.

[Ltvscout]

I received the Enerjet Nike Smoke today.
The "smoker" tube IS in fact BT-5 sized, not the BT-3 that I recalled was in the previous Nike-Smoke I examined.
I will take measurements/digital pics of all the parts before I assemble the kit.
A couple of things that I found curious about the kit:
1) the shock cord is "Standard" Centuri 1/8" shock cord, but it is 4 FEET LONG !
2) the shock cord anchor looks like a standard centuri anchor except it is 2X scale !
3) the silk 'chute is about one of the best I have EVER seen as a stock chute
We already have a scan of the instructions and decal from Sean Lannan. I forgot I had those online. ;) What we're missing though is the template for the fins. Also, it would be nice to have a scan of the shock cord mount since you said it's larger than normal. I believe Kinkos has a scanner. Also, what kind of cone is the "nose cone plug"?
Actuall photos and measurements of the parts would also go great. Thanks!

[ghrocketman]

Ltvscout,
There is no fin template....they are die cut

[Ltvscout]

Ltvscout,
There is no fin template....they are die cut
When you go to pop them out of the sheet for building, first go get one scanned. You can lay it on the scanner bed and put the top down without a problem. Many of my plan scans have actual fin scans done just like that.

[ghrocketman]

They are already popped out of the sheet....the kit is 33 yrs old you know.... :D
Should I just scan a fin ?
The nose cone is a small plastic ogive/elliptical cone that is the shape of a Semroc balsa BC-510P.

[Ltvscout]

They are already popped out of the sheet....the kit is 33 yrs old you know.... :D
Should I just scan a fin ?
The nose cone is a small plastic ogive/elliptical cone that is the shape of a Semroc balsa BC-510P.
Heh, all the easier. Yes, if you'd scan a fin and put like a little metal ruler next to it on the scanning bed that would be great. Maybe lay the shock cord mount on the opposite side of the ruler.

If you could take a close-up photo of the small cone with a ruler next to it that would also be great.

[ghrocketman]

Instead of using the scanner could I just take digital pics vertically above the parts with a ruler next to them ?...that would be the easiest by far for me to do....the nearest Kinko's with a scanner is about 25mi. away.

[rstaff3]

I am in the process of modifying a Quest Nike Smoke cone to spew tracking powder and am interested in the details of the Enerjet model. I agree, digital photos would be great I found a general diagram http://rocketdungeon.blogspot.com/2009/11/smoking-nike-smoke-nose-cone-contd.html but need to know the number of holes, their sizes, how the tracking powder is loaded, etc.

[snaquin]

I know you collector purists will cringe when you hear this, but I am going to BUILD and FLY it !!!!!
I can't wait ! :D


Nice catch GH! Being an EnerJet fan although not a "collector purist" I would fly it also. I'm sure you'll enjoy building that model. Great to win the auction on that one.


I really doubt that this will ever be flown on a 29mm ANYTHING.
More likely I will fly using a Semroc 24mm adapter.

Although I wouldn't fly that original on a 29mm motor either, I would build a second one to fly on 29mm F and G motors, EconoJets & single use. Part of my enjoyment of building an EnerJet clone is to experience flying them on the larger motors as was the original intent of the designs. I'm hoping to put a few flights on some of mine at our HPR field real soon.

It requires a lot of recovery space using a long streamer and it's not for everyone but that's how I roll .....

:D

[blackshire]

They are already popped out of the sheet....the kit is 33 yrs old you know.... :D
Should I just scan a fin ?
The nose cone is a small plastic ogive/elliptical cone that is the shape of a Semroc balsa BC-510P.

It's a Centuri PNC-51, which Sirius Rocketry has (molded in polyurethane resin, see: http://www.siriusrocketry.biz/ishop/index.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=8 ). The Estes NC-5 plastic nose cone assortment includes (usually two) similar BT-5 nose cones, which were used in the later version of the Mosquito kit.