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Carl@Semroc
06-01-2009, 09:42 PM
Well, I know I have been quiet lately. The Saturn V is a consuming model. Sheryl is getting 10 pre-production kits together to send out for feedback. Missing in the first package is the wraps and Apollo. I am trying to have them ready before the weekend. Instructions are in progress and will be put online.

As I might have posted before, the backbone is very similar to the Saturn 1B. It will ship with the 24mm x 3.75" long mount for the D12 and Gary's 24mm engines. The quad 18mm cluster will be a $6.00 option. We are hoping to get one ready for flight testing this week. It is supposed to be stable with the scale fins with single 24mm engine. The quad will require about .5 oz of weight at service module location.

Saturn V photo (http://www.semroc.com//photos/satv1.tif)
Saturn V Exploded View (http://www.semroc.com/documents/satv-ex.tif)

So far, I have as "interested" participants:
1. dwmdmm
2. CPMcGraw
3. barone
4. foose4string
5. chanstevens
6. John Brohm
7. A Fish Named Wallyum
8. ....

If you are not still interested, let me know so I can free up a slot. Sheryl has already told me that TEN is enough!

I will open it to a few not in this group tomorrow. What does everyone think of doing the critique "out in the open" on the forum? Anyone else interested in what goes on during the creation of a kit, tradeoffs, etc. might be interested.

A Fish Named Wallyum
06-01-2009, 09:47 PM
If you're truly in need of someone, I'd be glad to offer my services to fill a space on the list.

Carl@Semroc
06-01-2009, 10:10 PM
If you're truly in need of someone, I'd be glad to offer my services to fill a space on the list.Thanks Bill!

dwmzmm
06-01-2009, 10:13 PM
Wow, looks like it should be a fun build, Carl! One question: Is there any time limit or deadline for the beta builds? The reason I'm asking is I'd like to be able to take my time and not feel "pressured" as we were during the Apollo - 7/Saturn 1-B Celebration build.

Carl@Semroc
06-01-2009, 10:24 PM
Wow, looks like it should be a fun build, Carl! One question: Is there any time limit or deadline for the beta builds? The reason I'm asking is I'd like to be able to take my time and not feel "pressured" as we were during the Apollo - 7/Saturn 1-B Celebration build.We are on a time crunch. This pass is not for museum quality, but a look at what needs to be changed/improved. We will provide all testers with a production model in a month or so that can be built at your pace. This is equivalent to our "fit-together" models we do on every kit, just to check all the basic fit, decals, painting details, etc.

We hope to release it before the end of the month!

foose4string
06-01-2009, 10:28 PM
Excellent news. I'm still in Carl. Looks rather straight forward.... perhaps easier than the 1B when you consider masking and all.

dwmzmm
06-01-2009, 10:36 PM
Ok, great! I'm looking forward to it. Just take your time getting the pieces together...... :D

CPMcGraw
06-01-2009, 11:21 PM
I'm very interested, Carl! Thanks!

Concerning the "out in the open" critique idea, I don't have a problem with it. That's how the BARCLONE designs are supposed to be handled -- open peer review. Unlike those designs, however, this new SatV is meant to be a commercial kit, so it's up to you how much of the details you want the general public (read that to mean 'The Competition in Penrose') to hear about before the official release. :D

Addendum: The messages about the new Quest "D", "E", and "F" BP motors sound like they might be an interesting matchup for this model. What sort of performance are you expecting from the Estes D12?

Royatl
06-02-2009, 12:59 AM
I'd be glad to help out, Carl. Long as I don't have to paint, I can build em pretty fast!

Mark II
06-02-2009, 01:46 AM
Carl, I can build one and give it a flight test (or two, or three, or however many you want) at my home field (which is pretty much always available, and which is about as good of a guarantee as you will ever get that there will be no industry spies - or even any other witnesses at all :rolleyes: ). As long as you aren't looking for more than a few hundred feet of altitude (say, 600-800 feet max.) it should be no problem at all. I can put one together fast if I am not concerned about giving it a perfect paint job.

MarkII

Chas Russell
06-02-2009, 08:29 AM
Carl. please let me know if you need me to help. What, it doesn't go to Eleven?

Chas

rraeford
06-02-2009, 06:31 PM
Carl,

I've never done a beta test for a model - only software - but I have built a few. I will be happy to help if you need someone.

rraeford

chanstevens
06-03-2009, 06:06 AM
Carl. please let me know if you need me to help. What, it doesn't go to Eleven?

Chas

Heck, the Marshall JCM900 went all the way up to 20! That's nine more, innit? ;)

foose4string
06-17-2009, 09:31 AM
How's it coming along, Carl?

mperdue
06-17-2009, 09:56 AM
Carl. please let me know if you need me to help. What, it doesn't go to Eleven?

Chas
I think I'm eleven...

Mario

dwmzmm
06-17-2009, 09:50 PM
Carl, I have a PM on your YORF inbox; please check.

John Dyer
07-13-2009, 09:44 PM
Of course, I'm in... :cool:


John