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gerryfortin
05-18-2010, 01:07 AM
Two individuals placed bids in excess of $400. What am I missing here? The hang tag is even torn through at the punch hole.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140405964793

Gus
05-18-2010, 02:16 AM
Gerry,

I had the same question. Price on the facecard suggests it's a pretty late model of no particular rarity.

I once sold some Centuri parachutes and was shocked at how high a price they sold for. The purchaser explained that he had a VERY complete collection and wanted that particular parachute because the package had a pre-printed price of 35 cents and he had never been able to buy one. It was in the old days of ebay and he knew the person who bid against him was a collector friend of his who bid high for the same reason he did.

Neither of the two bidders on today's Thor kit were newbies, so I wonder if it's something like the price-tag issue on my parachutes. I sure wish one of them would step forward and explain it. If they want to remain anonymous they can feel free to PM me and I'll pass the info along.

Steve

Randy
05-18-2010, 07:12 AM
Ben Franklin's old adage comes to mind. ;)

Randy
www.vernarockets.com

Ltvscout
05-18-2010, 08:57 AM
Ben Franklin's old adage comes to mind. ;)
Don't you mean P.T. Barnum? :chuckle:

UMRS
05-18-2010, 09:47 AM
Don't you mean P.T. Barnum? :chuckle:


Yes its ole P.T "Life is a game and you can win it, theres a sucker born every minute"


:D

ghrocketman
05-18-2010, 11:24 AM
I think he was referring to Ben Franklin's "A FOOL and his money are soon parted" :rolleyes:

UMRS
05-18-2010, 11:29 AM
Could be but both will apply :)

nvrocketeer
05-18-2010, 12:21 PM
Two individuals placed bids in excess of $400. What am I missing here? The hang tag is even torn through at the punch hole.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140405964793

I wonder if those are even going to hold up. The seller reported "failure to follow through" problems on some high bids from auctions earlier this month.

Randy
05-18-2010, 12:41 PM
Franklin / Barnum... same thing, same reasoning... they were cousins you know. Yeah, cousins, that's the ticket!

I met Barnum once, over at Morgan Fairchild's house. Mick Jaggar was there too. Or was that Morgan Freeman over at Clint Eastwood's house?

Fool / sucker / idiot.... they're all cousins.

;)

Randy
www.vernarockets.com

GregGleason
05-18-2010, 02:39 PM
How about a hybrid quote (from P.T. Franklin):

A fool and his money are parted every minute!

gerryfortin
05-18-2010, 10:53 PM
Definitely much sinicism on the topic.

My goal is determing if the data point belong in the Estes kit database. Gus does mention that the $3.75 price on the facecard may a factor.

For some unknown reason, I cannot access www.ninfinger.org to check on 1971 catalog pricing.

Gus
05-18-2010, 11:33 PM
Fall 1971 price was $3.25.

mojo1986
05-19-2010, 08:46 AM
Price in the 712 catalog was $3.75. The kit did not appear in the 1973 catalog. In the July '72 issue of Model Rocket News (V12N3) the kit, and 8 others, were offered at special blow out prices. In the case of the K-28 kit, the price was $1.89.

Joe

Gus
05-19-2010, 09:36 AM
Price in the 712 catalog was $3.75. The kit did not appear in the 1973 catalog. In the July '72 issue of Model Rocket News (V12N3) the kit, and 8 others, were offered at special blow out prices. In the case of the K-28 kit, the price was $1.89.

Joe
Joe,

Not that it really matters but I'm curious if there were different printings. The Ninfinger version of the 712 catalog shows the Thor on page 39 at $3.25 and in the price index at the same price. Where did you see it at $3.75?

Jimid123
05-19-2010, 10:46 AM
Joe,

Not that it really matters but I'm curious if there were different printings. The Ninfinger version of the 712 catalog shows the Thor on page 39 at $3.25 and in the price index at the same price. Where did you see it at $3.75?


Hi Joe, I have several copies of the 712 Catalog and it show the price of $3.75 for the Thor Agena-B. The price in the 711 Catalog is $3.25. Estes had a price increase when the 712 Catalog came out later that year. Take Care, Jimi

gerryfortin
05-19-2010, 07:51 PM
Gentlemen,

Thank you for the information. Appreciate the time to check the catalogs and communicate the pricing history. I will update the Estes database with $3.75 and $3.25 facecards and list the recent eBay kit pricing realized at $3.75 facecard variety. Also will check my kit once arriving home tomorrow as whether $3.25 or $3.75. Suspect it will be $3.25.

mojo1986
05-19-2010, 08:58 PM
Joe,

Not that it really matters but I'm curious if there were different printings. The Ninfinger version of the 712 catalog shows the Thor on page 39 at $3.25 and in the price index at the same price. Where did you see it at $3.75?

My 712 catalog (three black and white rockets on the cover, blue background) has the illustration on page 38 with the description and pricing ($3.75) on page 39.

Joe

mojo1986
05-19-2010, 09:12 PM
Joe,

Not that it really matters but I'm curious if there were different printings. The Ninfinger version of the 712 catalog shows the Thor on page 39 at $3.25 and in the price index at the same price. Where did you see it at $3.75?

As a followup to my previous comment on this, I believe that pages 38-39 from the 712 Estes catalog shown on the Ninfinger site are actually pages 38-39 from the 711 catalog (black cover).

Joe

Gus
05-19-2010, 11:19 PM
As a followup to my previous comment on this, I believe that pages 38-39 from the 712 Estes catalog shown on the Ninfinger site are actually pages 38-39 from the 711 catalog (black cover).

Joe
Joe, Jimmy,

Thanks. I didn't have time to go dig out my 71 catalogs. The Ninfinger version covers are labeled 711 and 712 so I presumed the inside pages were correct, but they're not. So maybe the $3.75 facecard was the issue.

Steve

gerryfortin
05-24-2010, 02:52 PM
Just a quick head's up that the Rainbow hang tag varieties are now posted on the Estes database hang tag guide. I've labeled the two types of hang tags as Large Letters and Small Letters to keep the nomenclature simple. Here is the link.

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/BAR/kitpages/hangtag_guide.htm

Feedback always appreciated.