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Dewalt 05-04-2017 09:58 AM

Starship Enterprise & Honest John K-27
 
Looking for two kits,
First up the vacumed form Estes Starship Enterprise, yes I see them on ebay but perhaps someone here has a spare they would like to trade or sell . Vacu form kits dont scare me I use to build WWII aircraft versions .

Secondly looking for the old Estes K-27 Honest John kit or parts, not interested in the current release. Balsa and paper transitions are more my style.

If you have one of these kits you are interested in getting rid off drop me a p/m please.

attached pic is a Russian Polikarpov I-16 vacu form under construction.


ghrocketman 05-04-2017 10:00 PM

You most likely will have better luck on ebay for both of those than here.

As you mentioned, the Starship Enterprise is almost always available on ebay, often for as little as $35. That kit was most likely the most over-produced kit ever bagged by Estes. Supply FAR outweighed the demand. The 3 major Star Wars kits (non-Maxi 18mm power X-Wing, TIE Fighter, and 4" diameter R2D2) come close in OVER-production.

The K-27 Honest John is FAR rarer, but does pop up on ebay from time-to-time; you may find someone on this forum that has one in 'builder' condition they are willing to let go of though. That kit BY FAR is the best HJ that Estes ever produced. The Maxi-Brute kit is FAR underpowered with a D12, and all the other plastic-nose versions they have produced in numerous sizes after the K-27 are DUDS in my book.

mikeyd 05-04-2017 10:16 PM

The Science Education center in Wichita, KS has a Builders K27 Honest John, the kit looks complete, but the plastic bag had degraded so much, they had to put it in a ziplock baggie.
Mark Logan, the owner is a good person to work with as well.

rraeford 05-22-2017 06:23 PM

I have an opened kit I wouldn't mind sending to a new home. PM me.

tbzep 05-22-2017 07:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghrocketman
The Maxi-Brute kit is FAR underpowered with a D12, and all the other plastic-nose versions they have produced in numerous sizes after the K-27 are DUDS in my book.

The Maxi Brute HoJo flies just fine on a D12. I've got many flights on mine with a D12 bot in calm and in moderate wind. It won't set altitude records, but it is safe. The Pershing II is way underpowered on a D12. I flew mine a total of one time and immediately retired it. It wobbled off the pad and made my Centuri Saturn V look like a high altitude bird in comparison.

LeeR 05-22-2017 10:21 PM

Dewalt,

If non of these leads works, I have a 1919 V-2. I'm not sure you'd really care for it, since it is plastic nose cone, and no detailing called for like the K-27. I had a K-27 as a kid and I loved that model. I picked up the 1919 in a big kit trade and have never really been motivated to build it.

I do like the current V-2, especially with the detailed tailcone, but can appreciate your desire for an oldie!

PM me if you decide your interested. I'll be heading off to NSL in two days, so I'm gone for about a week.

LeeR 05-22-2017 10:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbzep
The Maxi Brute HoJo flies just fine on a D12. I've got many flights on mine with a D12 bot in calm and in moderate wind. It won't set altitude records, but it is safe. The Pershing II is way underpowered on a D12. I flew mine a total of one time and immediately retired it. It wobbled off the pad and made my Centuri Saturn V look like a high altitude bird in comparison.


About the time I bought mine, I saw one fly on an Aerotech F14 Black Jack. Nice slow liftoff and around a 4 second burn. I bought two of those motors for it (I converted HoJo to 29mm). Still have the motors, but they are not certified, and I'm not sure I'd try to get permission to use them, or risk using them. Several alternatives exist now.

I just posted elsewhere that I never finished the build. Had real issues with the fins. I know John Boren has a technique for toughening/reinforcing fins with fiberglass strands so I'm going to ask him for details when we get together at NSL.


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