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Old 09-30-2018, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ghrocketman
I prefer "liberTINE" / Chaos / a lil ANARCHY/MAYHEM instead of the over-regulation of INDIVIDUAL freedom.

I like the "WILD WILD WEST".
I'm sure that you do, but it's not a good idea (frontier towns didn't think so, either; they hired sheriffs and had U.S. Marshalls working in them for a reason--the people did *not* like chaos). That is the difference between liberty and libertine-ism. Somalia is an example of a libertine society, and I wouldn't care to see it replicated here (even in a Western cultural context). Such notions sound great to some young, strong, people--particularly males--in the prime of life. But if one is disabled, elderly, a young child, or a woman, it's not so great. Also:

On one of our Fairbanks radio stations, there is a local program called "Patriot's Lament" (it's on KFAR 660 AM; it is also online, and has an associated blog, see: http://www.google.com/search?source.....0.Hu34N1tdLp0 ), whose hosts--the brothers Joshua and Aaron Bennett, two young local businessmen--espouse similar views. I used to support them (and I still agree with some of their views), but over the years they have become increasingly radical; they believe in having essentially *NO* government at all, and a militia instead of the military. In addition:

They are young, outdoors-type folks. Their ideas ^sound^ very attractive, but they are relevant to the United States as it was in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries--a largely agrarian nation that no longer exists. (They even criticize those who call the police for help, advocating that people should solve their own problems between themselves. That is a good idea, *up to a point*, especially when one is young and able-bodied, and both parties are willing to discuss disagreements peacefully. But what if a 79 year-old widowed grandmother has a 26 year-old male neighbor who vandalizes her car and threatens violence if she doesn't just keep quiet about it?) As well:

Their ideas are also very "Christian-centric," which the Founders wisely opposed in government (most of the Founders ^were^ Christians, but they knew, from the previous unhappy experiences of the colonies, that combining government and religion--especially having an official church--was a bad idea). (India also has a strong tradition--and supporting laws--of secular government, which is necessary because India has so many different religions.) Being pagan myself (that is the word that comes the closest to describing my path; I'm not a member of any Wiccan, Druid, or other such pagan groups), I suspect that folks like myself--and agnostics and atheists, especially--would not be exactly welcome in the Bennett Brothers' America. In fairness to them, they gladly discuss--in a civil manner, too--viewpoints that differ from, and are even in direct opposition to, their own.
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