04-11-2009, 01:39 PM
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rocket dinosaur
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: My Old Kentucky Home
Posts: 1,184
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Originally Posted by georgegassaway
Well, if you had been on TRF recently would would have seen the announcement that the TRF 1.0 files have been salvaged successfully. They will be posted as an access-only archive forum in a month or two.
As for Barry's total dismissal of the NAR, I think that come far more from personal issues by Barry than what has been good for Estes for 50+ years.
The NAR and Estes used to work together, a LOT. It was mutually beneficial. By the time Barry came in, so much of the hobby was on "autopilot" that Barry did not either know the history, or have any appreciation. Many times when Estes had a program that they needed "nearly free manpower for", they could contact NAR sections to help with some demos, or to build display rockets, "paying" in Estes Gift Certificates (though sometimes it was done for free). Or to help with schools, back when Estes had an actual Education department.
The NAR did things that ticked off Barry. Those things that the NAR did, was to work on the hobby as a whole and give all manufacturers the same opportunities, instead of doing what was always best for Estes Industries. Including things like helping to legalize HPR, which was not good for Estes Industries.
- George Gassaway
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George, yes I can remember when the NAR and Estes were more or less joined at the hip....
I also know that the NAR-Estes "kit-stuffer" program was a very good way to get junior members into the NAR.
But I'm curious as to your thoughts on why you think legalizing HPR was not a good thing, or a bad thing for Estes.
Are we talking overall safety here? I can see where HPR with their much larger sizes and velocities could end up being a "kinetic kill vehicle", not intentionally per se, but just because the ejection charge failed. I think that LONG before we see a death from MR, we will see some serious accidents in HPR; now that might "taint" Estes products.
At some point in HPR, somebody is going to be standing in the wrong place......the odds increase as more people come into HPR and more people launch HPR.
I personally can't see HPR going 50 years without either a serious accident or even a death.
I guess that's why they call them Large and Dangerous Rocket Ships huh?
terry dean
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