Ye Olde Rocket Forum

Go Back   Ye Olde Rocket Forum > The Golden Age of Model Rocketry > Kit Collecting
User Name
Password
Auctions Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Search Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-07-2009, 11:50 AM
Ltvscout's Avatar
Ltvscout Ltvscout is online now
Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 5,315
Default Auction pricing on OOP Estes kits

Gerry Fortin put together a great list tracking auction prices on OOP Estes kits. You can view it here:

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/BAR/home.htm
__________________
Scott D. Hansen
Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe - Your One Stop BAR Shoppe!
Ye Olde Rocket Plans - OOP Rocket Plans From 38 Companies!
Ye Olde Rocket Forum
Ye Olde Rocket Auction
WOOSH NAR Section #558
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-08-2009, 10:27 AM
scigs30 scigs30 is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,894
Default

Hey, I think I bought most of those kits.....
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-08-2009, 01:33 PM
arlblaster arlblaster is offline
Intermediate Rocketeer
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Weems,Va
Posts: 45
Default

I have a few on that list...... I also see a handfull that arent very accurate. Thats just the ones that I was involved in.

#1281 Alien Invader High Price $75 Low Price $48

I saw one in mint condition go for $110 ,that was for charity or something,dont remember. I also got REAL lucky and was refreshing my ebay search page one night and caught someone putting one up for $35 buy it now. I jumped all over it.....

Ken
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-09-2009, 03:20 AM
gerryfortin gerryfortin is offline
Addicted Collector.. now Rockets
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Portland, Maine..Vacationland
Posts: 205
Default

Ken,

This is Gerry Fortin. Thanks for checking the Estes kit database. Please be aware that I do not include any Buy It Now information as those listings are not true auctions and are an inadequate measure of kit value through open bidding. As for the stated higher price that is not listed in the database, can you please specific the date of the auction so I can add to the database? Many thanks.

To all other readers....it is a pleasure to be part of this community. This is my second BAR event and hopefully I will stay with model rocketry for years to come.

A short personal introduction is probably in order. My primary interest for 20+ years has been rare American Liberty Seated dimes minted from 1837-1891. After years of researching the series, I published a web-book at www.seateddimevarieties.com. From the numismatic experience, I decided to try a new collecting pursuit and Estes kits seem to be an obvious choice. Since there was a lack of public pricing guide, I though it might be interesting to assemble one and attempt to determine the relative scarcity of individual kits. After 1 year of tablulating eBay prices on a best effort basis, I decide to offer the information to the public via my website. It is possible that I missed some kit listings across one year's time. I also will dismiss any kits that are opened or obviously damaged from the database.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-09-2009, 09:17 AM
sandman's Avatar
sandman sandman is offline
Custom Cone, Kit & Decal Maker
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Way North of Detroit
Posts: 4,603
Default

Thanks, Gerry.

My insurance agent has been bugging me to get her a price estimate on the boxes of old kits I have.

I don't have an excuse now.
__________________
"I'm a sandman. I've never killed anyone. I terminate runners when their time is up." Logan from "Logan's Run"

http://sandmandecals.com/
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-09-2009, 10:01 AM
Mikus Mikus is offline
Hooked Badly
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NW Houston, TX
Posts: 570
Default

Very cool list Gerry, thanks for posting it. Having bought a number of OOP kits on ebay over the last couple of years, I know just what a nightmare tracking these must have been.

But the OC in me will now make me spend time looking to see how my buying went.

Right off the bat I noticed this one:

Congratulations on winning this item! The next step is to pay the seller.
Mini Shuttle !RARE! New Mint Condition Estes OOP #1391
Sale price: $18.51 + Shipping: $6.50 = Total: 25.01
04/28/08


Woohoo, feeling good about that buy....

If I run across anymore I'll let you know.

Thanks again,
Mikus

Last edited by Mikus : 02-09-2009 at 10:10 AM. Reason: I didn't notice the total included shipping - corrected.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-13-2011, 10:54 AM
dannymrmissile dannymrmissile is offline
forgiveness is indeed divine
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 331
Default Prices of old kits

Quote:
Originally Posted by gerryfortin
Ken,

This is Gerry Fortin. Thanks for checking the Estes kit database. Please be aware that I do not include any Buy It Now information as those listings are not true auctions and are an inadequate measure of kit value through open bidding. As for the stated higher price that is not listed in the database, can you please specific the date of the auction so I can add to the database? Many thanks.

To all other readers....it is a pleasure to be part of this community. This is my second BAR event and hopefully I will stay with model rocketry for years to come.

A short personal introduction is probably in order. My primary interest for 20+ years has been rare American Liberty Seated dimes minted from 1837-1891. After years of researching the series, I published a web-book at www.seateddimevarieties.com. From the numismatic experience, I decided to try a new collecting pursuit and Estes kits seem to be an obvious choice. Since there was a lack of public pricing guide, I though it might be interesting to assemble one and attempt to determine the relative scarcity of individual kits. After 1 year of tablulating eBay prices on a best effort basis, I decide to offer the information to the public via my website. It is possible that I missed some kit listings across one year's time. I also will dismiss any kits that are opened or obviously damaged from the database.
As a 44 yr. collector, theres no way to put a price on most vintage kits. Generally they go for between 40-150.oo, its up to whos lookin and the economy, etc. More specific kits top 300.oo . This is something you just have to have a "feel" for. The same kit can vary in price by 50.oo or more depending on what Ive said. Believe me, Ive had em all. I sold a K Scrambler for 850.00 back in late 90s-doubt it'd bring that now. Last week a Centuri 1/100 L joe II went for 315. So if you made a pricelist, it would be obsolete by the time it went to print. Hope this helps. dannymrmissile.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-13-2011, 01:07 PM
jadebox's Avatar
jadebox jadebox is offline
Roger Smith/JonRocket.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oviedo, FL
Posts: 884
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dannymrmissile
As a 44 yr. collector, theres no way to put a price on most vintage kits. Generally they go for between 40-150.oo, its up to whos lookin and the economy, etc. More specific kits top 300.oo . This is something you just have to have a "feel" for. The same kit can vary in price by 50.oo or more depending on what Ive said. Believe me, Ive had em all. I sold a K Scrambler for 850.00 back in late 90s-doubt it'd bring that now. Last week a Centuri 1/100 L joe II went for 315. So if you made a pricelist, it would be obsolete by the time it went to print. Hope this helps. dannymrmissile.


Gerry tracks the high, low, and mean prices the items fetch on eBay. It may not be perfect, but it's helpful. In a way, too, it helps set the prices. For example, there's a hobby shop on eBay selling a large collection of vintage kits at set prices ("Buy It Now"). It's obvious that they are using Gerry's list to set the prices.

I've used the price list for things like deciding whether or not to sell a kit, and, less often, to help me decide how much I might bid on a kit. So, I've found it useful and appreciate the effort that goes into maintaining it.

-- Roger
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Der Red Max's Avatar
Der Red Max Der Red Max is offline
MOTORVERKENS
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 315
Default

First thing I noticed were that there seems to be no distinction between the Citation Boxed kits and the non-Citation bagged kits.

I know many folks like to call the bagged 0652 Patriot - "Citation" to differentiate form the (military) Patriot version, but in truth all of the Citation models differ from the later bagged version.
and - Not to mention the boxed Citation kits average well over $150-$200 more than their non-Citation bagged version.

For example:
Model Citation Boxed Non-Citation Bagged
Bomarc Glider Recovery Parachute recovery
Quasar Chrome finish/Clipped fins White finish/unclipped fins
SS Vega Pods w/NC & Chrome wrap Truncated Pods/Red Wrap
Patriot 2 Pc. NC/Longer Stars&Stripes Decal Blow Molded NC/Truncated S&S Decal
Der Red Max 2 Piece NC Blow Molded 1 Pc. NC
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-12-2009, 11:59 PM
gerryfortin gerryfortin is offline
Addicted Collector.. now Rockets
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Portland, Maine..Vacationland
Posts: 205
Default

I plan to finish the catalog kit list this weekend so the website link will be consistent with Estes kits through 2008. Again, I am not tracking the "starter sets' or the RTFs. Really doubt that I will be able to capture the new eBay kit prices from the past week. That will have to wait until next weekend for a two week update.

Thanks to everyone for their comments and information; will add those into the database this weekend.

Gerry
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:19 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe 1998-2018