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Oumuamua signals: SETI's listening
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Enough doubt exists that the interstellar asteroid Oumuamua may *not* be a natural object that additional observations—including radio telescope observations by SETI and Breakthrough Listen, to detect any leakage radiation from it—are now being conducted (see: http://www.google.com/search?ei=Vdo...1.0.ShVFCFHnMbY ). Its natural-seeming photometric reddish color (combined with its very odd total lack of cometary outgassing despite this), its needle-like proportions (~800 meters long, yet only ~80 meters wide), its obvious strength and solidity (a “rubble pile” of those proportions would have broken apart even given Oumuamua’s relatively slow rotation), and its high-velocity entry into our solar system, have raised suspicions among some scientists that Oumuamua might possibly be an interstellar probe or a starship—perhaps a derelict one—instead of a natural object.
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An interstellar probe or a starship? I'm betting it's not. Those SETI guys should have better things to do...........
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It does excite the imagination, but lack of cometary out-gassing and a red color are IMHO not possible clues that this may be a spaceship. Deep space objects seem to get coated with a red-colored goo that is composed of a class of compounds called tholins. And there is no reason a priori that an object flying past us on a hyperbolic trajectory through the solar system should out-gas.
It's a fairly small object with a low albedo. Amazing that they even saw it last October.
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Even a few human beings--scientists and engineers, as well as science fiction writers--who have contemplated and studied the problems posed by interstellar space flight have suggested using (and even re-shaping) asteroids for use as starships, particularly slow (sub-relativistic velocity) ones. The "walls" of such asteroids would provide shielding against radiation (including galactic cosmic rays) and interstellar particle impacts, as well as help to maintain an even interior temperature for equipment and occupants (if any). Also: While it is unlikely that Oumuamua is an interstellar vehicle of any kind (it probably *is* a tholins-coated asteroid--or a thickly-coated comet nucleus, perhaps--that was ejected from its stellar system of origin by a Jovian planet [and or companion star] gravitational encounter), it doesn't hurt to give it another, more detailed look. Whether it is natural or artificial (or a modified natural celestial body), any new--or even confirmatory, or dis-confirmatory--data that can be gleaned from Oumuamua is worthwhile to obtain.
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99.999% unlikely. However, it takes only a few keystrokes to receive and study possible radio emissions, so why not take a peek?
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Proposed missions to Oumuamua have been formulated. Here (see: http://danielmarin.naukas.com/2017/...%CA%BBoumuamua/ ) is a proposal for an SLS-launched (SpaceX’s BFR could also do it) probe that could reach Oumuamua. The text is in Portuguese (the proposal is from Brazil), but FreeTranslation www.freetranslation.com can translate it into English. Such a probe could also--in principle (although spacecraft longevity would be an issue)--be sent to another star, in which case a laser communication system could be used instead of the "baseline" 1-meter dish antenna.
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Speaking of interstellar probes:
The founder of “Project Vagabond” http://twitter.com/VagabondArmada posted here (see: http://twitter.com/_TheGeoff/status/933480336025145345 ) about an interesting multi-star mission; as he described it (I have also copied it below): Project Vagabond @VagabondArmada Nov 21 More Replying to @EricMamajek A probe in an slightly elliptical Galactic orbit, but traveling in the counter-revolving direction would be best case - going by stars at an average of about 460 km/sec - it could rack up an enormous number of stellar flybys. Easy for a machine.
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Oumuamua...what a name! Next one to come through should be called Mahna Mahna!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5W60VwDkas
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As well as Mahna Mahna (which would continue the repeating-syllables format of Oumuamua), future "I-class" asteroids and comets could be given names such as Count von Count and Maughty-moot-mope. Binary I-class objects could be given names that cover *both* components. Thus, we may one day discover interstellar interlopers that leave the Sol system with monikers such as Bert & Ernie, Buddy & Jim (two ^human^ comedians who appeared on "Sesame Street" during its early years), and Geeful & Gonk (these last two resided on an extra-solar planet called Snu [pronounced "snoo"], so they have an intrinsic interstellar association...).
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And we can't forget the guy singing Mahna Mahna, Bip Bippadotta.
A few others that have stuck with me for 50 years in addition to the more common Cookie Monster, Big Bird, Grover, Oscar, etc. are: Marvelous Martha (MMMMMMMM, Martha! cartoon segment) Wicked Wanda (cartoon segment) Yip Yips (aliens......cow, book, telephone) This post was brought to you by the letters Q and U and the number 6.
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