Nick gave me a New Year's present - scripts to find errors and missing data in the databases. Sooooo, I need the manufacturer's recommendations for the following kits/plans. If you only know the motor mount size, I'll settle for that. If you know any of these to be vaporware, please also let me know.

-> OOP - Centuri Engineering Co. - Screaming Eagle
-> OOP - Semroc Astronautics Corporation - Cyber III
-> Plans - Launch Pad (The) - AIM-9L Sidewinder
-> Plans - Mach-1 Industries - Hawaiian Sling
-> Roachwerks Custom Turnings - Little Joe II (1:38.5)
-> American Alliance Rocketry - F17 Phantom
-> Contest Craft (by Rob Edmonds) - CR/G
-> DARS (club) - Gargas Paradox - NSL 2006 Commemorative Kit
-> OOP - Model Minutes - Angeline
-> Phoenix Rocketry - Corporal
-> Plans - Estes Industries - Cosmik Debris
-> Red Arrow Hobbies - Aerospace Challenge
-> Red Arrow Hobbies - Beta

I know these HPR kits don't have specific recommendations, but I can't even nail down the MMT size!

-> Performance Rocketry - AAMRAM 1/2 Scale (3.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - AAMRAM Full Scale (7)
-> Performance Rocketry - Arcas Full Scale (4.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - Astrobee D Full Scale (6)
-> Performance Rocketry - Avenger 4
-> Performance Rocketry - Concept 150
-> Performance Rocketry - Concept 38
-> Performance Rocketry - Concept 54
-> Performance Rocketry - Concept 75
-> Performance Rocketry - Concept 98
-> Performance Rocketry - HV Arcas Full Scale (4.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - Honest John (9)
-> Performance Rocketry - Honest John 1/4 Scale (5.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - ISQY Tomahawk 2/3 Scale (6)
-> Performance Rocketry - Little John 1/2 Scale (6)
-> Performance Rocketry - Nike Apache 1/2 Scale (8.25)
-> Performance Rocketry - Nike Apache 1/3 Scale (5.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - Nike Smoke 1/2 Scale (8.25)
-> Performance Rocketry - Nike Smoke 1/3 Scale (5.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - Nike Smoke 3/4 Scale (11.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - Nike Smoke Full Scale (16)
-> Performance Rocketry - Patriot 1/2 Scale (7.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - Pershing 1A (7.5)
-> Performance Rocketry - V2 1/5 Scale (11.5)

And finally, was the Rocket Pad ASROC a cluster or a single motor rocket? (I have motor entries for both, one of which is an error).

TIA,

Dick

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Are you looking for what Centuri recommended back in the old days? That would be A8-3, B4-6, B6-6, B14-5, C6-7. When it came out in 1973, they also recommended the A5-4.

It flies fine on Quest A6-4's and Estes/Quest B4-4's, B6-4's also. The modern Estes A8-3 is a bit short and the A8-5 is a bit long.

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Yes, I'm interested in what the original manufacturer said...even where none of the motors exist Thanks!

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I just looked it up and added the A5-4, just in case you didn't see my edit.

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The concept kits are all min diameter.

Concept 38 = 38mm motors
Concept 54 = 54mm motors

..... and so on.

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I did the reviews on the Centuri Screaming Eagle and looked it up: A5-4, A8-3, B4-6, B14-5, C6-7. OOPs



I also did the Semroc Cyber III: C6-0/B6-0. C6-0/A8-5, B6-6, C6-7 (1st/2nd/3rd)
I got these from Carl at Semroc. It was originally a DOM type of kit and had some recommeded motors that are long OOP (Semroc motors) I can't give you the Semroc originals until TRF comes back up. They're posted on a thread there.

I hope this helps.

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She said, "Make up your mind, you can't do both!"

On the Roachwerks Custom turnings Little Joe II

There is a central 24mm motor mount and it will fly on anything from a D12-3 to an E30- 4 or any 24mm reload.

There are also 6 18mm motor mounts surrounding the central 24mm mount and you can leave them blocked with the provided centering ring or add up to 6 C6-5's

This has only been done once that i know of and the altitude was around 1,100' or 1,200'

Your milage may vary.

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B4-2, B4-4, B6-2, B6-4, C6-3, C6-5

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Happy New Year!

The plans for the Semroc Cyber III did not list specific motor recommendations, other than to advise using A booster modules and an A6-5 in the sustainer for the first flight. Otherwise, it would have taken Semroc's 270 series propulsion modules as follows:

• for single-stage flights: 1/2A6-2, A6-3 (first flight), B5-2, B5-4, C5-4

• for 2-stage and 3-stage flights:

(2nd stage booster and 1st stage booster, if applicable): A6-0 (first flight), B5-0, C5-0, C4-0;
(sustainer): A6-5 (first flight), B5-6, C5-6

These are all taken from the motor chart on pp. 38-39 of the May, 1970 Astronautic Modeler, which was Semroc's catalog. This was the same publication that contained the plans for the Cyber III. I do not think that Semroc's 1/2A6-0 booster module would have had enough thrust to lift a 3-stage stack, so I doubt that it would have been a recommended motor. The motor mounts for the Cyber III were all designed to take Semroc's standard length (70mm) propulsion modules, so I did not include their "shorty" (45mm) modules in the list above.

Mark \\.

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Muchos gracias! I dunno how I missed these, but how about these
-> OOP - BoRocks Rocketry - Critter
-> OOP - BoRocks Rocketry - Flechette 60 Plus
-> OOP - BoRocks Rocketry - Mega Mag!

Happy New Year to all!

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