The label looks like it is going to be a replacement instead of a companion.


I hope this does not foreshadow the elmerization of Titebond, with numerous "improvements" and product name changes like we saw with FnF over the years.


Bill

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I wonder if there are any other brands (perhaps re-labeled foreign-made glues sold in the US) that have the characteristics we desire? For example, in a nation like Germany, where doing quality woodwork is almost a religion, there must be domestic wood glue manufacturers who cater to the craftsmen's demands for excellent adhesives (Leo?). If so, smaller model rocket companies like FlisKits or Semroc could order relatively small batches of such top-notch glues and sell them as lucrative "side products."

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What about store brand or generic white glues that are meant to compete with Elmer's Glue-All? Are they still the "old" formula?

I don't actually know what's changed in Elmer's, but maybe these other Brand X glues have not changed. (It's been a while since I worked on a rocket, or bought new glue.)

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There is an "off-brand" of white glue whose name I can't remember (but it is common--the bottle has a different-style cap that's molded in yellow plastic) that I've had good results with.I think that's possible. Also, Aleene's makes both a good "tacky" white glue (it is called "Aleene's Tacky") and a good aliphatic resin (yellow) wood glue. (Their "yellow" wood glue is actually tan because it contains a dye to more closely match the color of wood.) Both are available at Michael's Crafts stores.

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Is there a such a thing as the perfect glue? Whether a modeler uses white glue, wood glue expoxy or CA, there are pros and cons of each. I feel that white or wood glue is sufficent for LPR. I have seen fins fall off on recovery no matter what type of glue is used. Just like all other modeling products, each one has their own way to do things and preferences.

My experience is that most generic white glues tend to be more like the "School Glue" than Glue All.

I picked up a bottle of Aleene's "Fast Grab" Tacky Glue yesterday. I haven't tried it yet, but when I do, I let you guys know how it works.

Greg

Well, I find Elmer's current mainstream white formula to be thin and runny in spite of its 'non-running' self-descrption. The wood glue gets a bit thick for me, and requires extra sanding. The Titebond stuff I got which is popular for fillets wound-up with little tiny bubbles texturing it on one of my builds, like there was degassing going on under it, but the undercoat was days dry. I'm too anal-retentive a builder to use it now...

Overall, the recently-discontinued traditional Elmers worked best for me in all application. Luckily, my wife found some at a local discounter, so we should have enough for a couple of years at least.

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I thought I would just throw this out there, I highly recommend "Amazing Ecoglue". I have been using this glue lately and I have had really good results. It seems like it is much easier to make fillets with, which I have always had trouble with. I looked around the net and it seems they might be re-branding this to add the word "Craft" to the labeling.

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What is its chemistry (PVA [Poly-Vinyl Acetate, i.e. "white glue"], aliphatic resin ["yellow wood glue"], polyurethane resin [I believe the black "Gorilla Glue" is this type], etc.)?

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Another thought: Has anyone here tried the new Testors "safe" tube-type cement for plastic models (it comes in a pale blue tube) for balsa/balsa, balsa/paper, and paper/paper joints? I've been told that it's lousy for bonding styrene and ABS plastics (those found in plastic model kits), but good for bonding porous materials such as balsa wood and paper (and without the toxic fumes and flammability [or at least less of the latter] of Testors cement for wood models [Testors' "model airplane glue"]).

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