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Russian Capsules Build
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So you've built your R-7. Now you need the capsules. In this build thread, we're going to build a Vostok and a Soyuz for the R-7 in my October Sky build thread. We're going to (hopefully) tackle the open frame interstage that is a key visual point for these rockets. Again, this is a real-time build so it's going to take a couple of weeks. I'm shooting to have these done by the end of the month, but we'll see . . . . Here's your Semroc parts list: 1 BNC-60SU 1 BNC-60CO 2 BNC-60MS 1 NB-60 BT-60 4.25" BT-60 1.75" BT-60 2.5" BT-60 Coupler 1.75" BT-3 3" 16" of 1/12 dowel you also need: 1 PingPong ball 18" of 1/16 dowel small sheet of 1/16 ply 11/16 wide sheet of corregated paper cardstock and balsa bits to add detail a lot of balsa filler/sanding sealer Testors Euro Grey Testors Russian Marker Red Gloss white Picture 1 shows most of this stuff: The BNC-60CO is going to be cut and resanded into a rough representation the bi-conic Vostok nose. If you look closely, you can see I've already marked the cut and sanding lines. The two BNC-60MS are also going to be cut, leaving only the lower 1/2" of the cone itself. These will become the bases that mate the capsules to the R-7. The lattice will be build on top of these cut down cones. I had a piece of blue salvage BT-60 that coincidently was exactly the right size to beome the Soyuz section and the Vostok section so I used it. Picture 2 shows the masking off of the BNC-60CO. At this point, I've cut off the top 3/8" and masked a line 1.5" from the shoulder all the way around. I marked the center point with a T-pin and started sanding . . . . Picture 3 shows the more or less finished product. Its not exactly right as the real thing has a more sloped lower section but it's pretty darn close considering how I did it. We may need to talk Carl into a BNC-60VK with proper slopes but for now I'm going with this one. Picture 4 shows a cut down BNC-60MS and an as-yet-uncut BNC-60MS. I marked a line just over 1/2 inch from the shoulder and cut it with a razor saw.. I then sanded it down to level at 1/2 inch. We're going to glue a 1/16 disk on top of this as the basis of the framework so it's important that this cut area be as level as possible. More soon.
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Or...I can make you one.
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Making the level cut would be challenging for me. Instead of cutting down a nose cone, I think I would take a nose block, sand the end flat and smooth, then add a narrow strip of body tube on the end to make the shoulder. Bill |
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Bill,
That's a great idea: it's simpler, cheaper and more likely to have excellent results; you get the "E" for engineering excellence. I'll mock up a Bill-style base later today. I'm going to say right here that if you want the most beautiful, elegant, scale Vostok or Soyuz kits (including the R-7) you must get one of Sandman's. I have one of his Soyuz kits sitting next to my computer; it's so cool, I don't want to mess it up. I'm waiting until my skills catch up, then I will build it. I knew my skills weren't up to it in time for April 12, hence this sport scale build thread. Plus, I was hoping that some people who don't normally build scale might build an R-7 for April that wasn't super complex - so far, I don't think I'd put this build beyond skill level 3 -- but then we haven't got to the interstage yet. I'll have some more pictures this evening.
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The interstage struts (or whatever that lattice stuff is called!) are waiting to be laser cut. I have been using the Soyuz lattice but that's not quite accurate. Now one of the cool serendipitous (ya like that word? ) things is the fact that there is a wood dowel between the two sections joined by the lattice. If I hold my tongue just right I can shape that dowel a bit and make it look like the third stage engine nozzle. The Soyuz has 10 sections (triangles...whatever) on the lattice and the Vostok has 8. Until I get those and verify the size I have to wait before I can make more of Vostok capsules. Just stay tuned.
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Guys,
I'm going to build eight V segments for the Vostok. But is a Soyuz ten or twelve V segments on the interstage? Check out: http://cosmopark.ru/r7/511_561b.jpg or http://foros.zackyfiles.com/showthread.php?p=3902017 (scroll to the assembly picture) I count 12 segments but: 1) I could be wrong; and 2) it could have changed over time; these pictures are both fairly recent. Also note how light the grey paint is -- this looks MUCH lighter than the Euro Grey.
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I imagine that you could seek confirmation from Arianespace but every image of a contemporary launcher seems to have twelve trusses in the interstage thrust structure.
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I have searched a LOT of documentation on the Soyuz and the "best guess" I came up with is 10 segments I have a "rolled out" view of the Vostok (first pic) it shows 8 sections. The straight on shot of the Vostok shows ~~~4 visible segments in one view. I don't have a "rolled out" view of the Soyuz but the head on view shows 5 segments. So my best guess is 10 segments. Any body out there have any better documentation? If it turns our there are indeed 12 segments then i will change the laser cutting patterns before I re release the kit.
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I'll second that. Mine are waiting until I develop a reliable way to drop the boosters in flight. I won't go as far as massively clustering Chan Stevens style, though. Bill |
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What is a good source for 1/12" dowel? I seem to recall seeing either 1/12" or 1/16", but not very often.
Bill |
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