Yeah, I gave it two or three good reads before I posted it. I've jumped the gun before and wound up landing in something fragrant.

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Build floor: Centuri Design Contest F-150 Hurricane Estes - Low Boom SST Semroc - Marauder, Shrike, SST Shuttle

In paint: Canaroc Starfighter Scorpion Estes F-22 Air Superiority Fighter, Multi-Roc, Solar Sailer II Semroc Cyber III

Ready to fly: Estes - Solar Sailer II Semroc - Earmark, Groonie Der V 1/2

I was in the audience. You were presenting your experience with building the LJ1. You showed a bunch of models, and the assumption was that the models came from..... you. I vaguely recall that you said one model was a loaner.

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Not to nitpick, but isn't "Little Joe I" actually a misnomer? Sort of like WWI was never called WWI until there was a second "war to end all wars". I believe it was just called the "Great War". So, was the Little Joe I simply called "Little Joe" or the Mercury Little Joe?

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An astute observation. I believe the correct name is "Little Joe". At least per Wikipedia.

It's a retroactive name, if not a retronym (like how number-dial watches and clocks came to be called analog watches and clocks after digital watches and clocks came into common use). For example, before the Titan II ICBM came along, its predecessor--which is now called the Titan I--was just called "Titan." (Books and magazine articles that cover the original kerolox ICBM, such as the July 1962 "Popular Science" issue's article, "Underground with the Terrible Titan" [see: http://books.google.com/books?id=Ii...20Titan&f=false ], use the un-numbered name "Titan," although this article mentions the then-upcoming "Type II Titans"--and also uses the term "Titan II"--on page 174 [the first Titan II test flight occurred in March of 1962, but it didn't become operational until 1963].)

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It's sort of like the use of SR at the end of someone's name who has a son named Junior. It's an added attribute for the sake of clarity.

In this case, the inexactness makes it easier to understand.

Doug

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Indeed--just as Pliny the Elder likely wasn't known as that until his nephew Pliny the Younger was born (or became prominent in his field of endeavor).

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On the other hand, when it comes to the movies “Ghostbusters” and “Ghostbusters II”, the first “Ghostbusters” is never referred to as “Ghostbusters I”—but rather just “Ghostbusters” OR “the Ghostbusters movie that didn’t suck”.

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Way back in 1998, Yita Wu of HUVARS (I think) put together a Little Joe I kit. Not exactly up to scale, but not bad. Below is a pic from a CMASS launch. Flew really well on C6-3's. It ultimately fell victim to a A8-3 (I wasn't wearing my glasses).



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The Yitah Wu LJ kit was the seed that began a 20+ year obsession with the Little Joe for me. If I ever meet the guy I plan on buying him many beers.

The scale qualities of that kit were actually pretty good, and the forthcoming Estes kit is very similar to that old gem.

James