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If anyone needs data, I have almost 92 GB, at present, and it keeps growing . . . Please drop me an E-Mail, if you are searching for data !

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If anyone needs data, I have almost 92 GB, at present, and it keeps growing . . . Please drop me an E-Mail, if you are searching for data !

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UPDATE . . . The Scale Data archive is over 400 GB, at present.

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If anyone needs data, I have almost 92 GB, at present, and it keeps growing . . . Please drop me an E-Mail, if you are searching for data !

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I'm not (at least not right now) searching for scale data, but (for others now, as well as perhaps for myself, in the future) do any of those entries you found and posted mention the Atlas-Able and/or the Thor-Altair (which was also referred to as the Thor-Burner I [the Thor-Burner II used the Surveyor Moon lander's solid propellant main retro-motor as its second stage, and the Thor-Burner IIA also had a second, smaller, spherical solid motor as its third stage])? The reason why I ask is because:

The Atlas-Able (an Atlas D topped by the upper two Vanguard upper stages, like the original Thor-Delta but with an Atlas first stage instead; none of the three Atlas-Able rounds got their spherical, STL/TRW-built Pioneer lunar probes [similar to Pioneer 5] to lunar orbit, as planned) used a modified, early Scout bulbous payload fairing (or a fairing that was quite closely patterned after the early--1959 - 1960--Scout bulbous payload fairing), and:

The earliest Thor-Burner I / Thor-Altair vehicles were launched in 1965. The cheap Thor-Burner vehicles usually orbited small, simple, coded-signal TV camera-equipped satellites (although later ones orbited polar- or heliosynchronous-orbit DMSP weather satellites) that orbited ahead of the Corona (operational Discoverer) and other film capsule-equipped, high-resolution photographic spy satellites, in the spysats' orbits. They returned TV images of planned photographic film targets, to avoid wasting the spy satellites' onboard, re-entry film "bucket" return capsules' film on clouded-over, or otherwise obscured, photographic targets (and occasionally, the inexpensive Thor-Burner-lofted TV camera "check film targets ahead" satellites caught unexpected but militarily significant targets themselves first, enabling even better "on-the-fly" film camera spysat picture coverage to be obtained). Also:

The earliest Thor-Burner I / Thor-Altair rounds used the earliest-type, narrow Scout payload fairing (such as was used for Explorer IX and for the other early, 12' diameter, white "polka-dot" pattern [for thermal control] aluminized Mylar, inflated-in-orbit Explorer AD--Atmospheric Density--'sub-series' of the Explorer satellites). Later Thor-Burner I / Thor-Altair rounds used the by-then-commonly-used (in 1965 - 66) bulbous Scout fairing, *and*:

Both the original (narrow) and bulbous Scout payload fairings encapsulated the Allegany Ballistics Laboratory Altair final (second) stage rocket motor, as well as the payload or payloads, in the Thor-Burner I / Thor-Altair. (Some--if not all--of the Thor-Burner I rockets used Altair-type second--top--stage motors; as with some other solid rocket motor types, other firms, such as--in this case--United Technologies Chemical Systems Division, with their FW-4 [the FW-4 was UT/CSD's "Altair," used as the Thor-Burner I, and some Scout & Delta vehicle, top stages, see: https://gobluechase.files.wordpress...lsion-final.pdf ], used the Allegany Ballistic Laboratory's much more famous Altair final stage rocket motor's name [even though UT/CSD didn't make the Altair motor], as "Thor-Altair" was much more recognizable and descriptive than "Thor-FW-4."
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I'm not (at least not right now) searching for scale data, but (for others now, as well as perhaps for myself, in the future) do any of those entries you found and posted mention the Atlas-Able and/or the Thor-Altair (which was also referred to as the Thor-Burner I [the Thor-Burner II used the Surveyor Moon lander's solid propellant main retro-motor as its second stage, and the Thor-Burner IIA also had a second, smaller, spherical solid motor as its third stage])? The reason why I ask is because:

The Atlas-Able (an Atlas D topped by the upper two Vanguard upper stages, like the original Thor-Delta but with an Atlas first stage instead; none of the three Atlas-Able rounds got their spherical, STL/TRW-built Pioneer lunar probes [similar to Pioneer 5] to lunar orbit, as planned) used a modified, early Scout bulbous payload fairing (or a fairing that was quite closely patterned after the early--1959 - 1960--Scout bulbous payload fairing), and:

The earliest Thor-Burner I / Thor-Altair vehicles were launched in 1965. The cheap Thor-Burner vehicles usually orbited small, simple, coded-signal TV camera-equipped satellites (although later ones orbited polar- or heliosynchronous-orbit DMSP weather satellites) that orbited ahead of the Corona (operational Discoverer) and other film capsule-equipped, high-resolution photographic spy satellites, in the spysats' orbits. They returned TV images of planned photographic film targets, to avoid wasting the spy satellites' onboard, re-entry film "bucket" return capsules' film on clouded-over, or otherwise obscured, photographic targets (and occasionally, the inexpensive Thor-Burner-lofted TV camera "check film targets ahead" satellites caught unexpected but militarily significant targets themselves first, enabling even better "on-the-fly" film camera spysat picture coverage to be obtained). Also:

The earliest Thor-Burner I / Thor-Altair rounds used the earliest-type, narrow Scout payload fairing (such as was used for Explorer IX and for the other early, 12' diameter, white "polka-dot" pattern [for thermal control] aluminized Mylar, inflated-in-orbit Explorer AD--Atmospheric Density--'sub-series' of the Explorer satellites). Later Thor-Burner I / Thor-Altair rounds used the by-then-commonly-used (in 1965 - 66) bulbous Scout fairing, *and*:

Both the original (narrow) and bulbous Scout payload fairings encapsulated the Allegany Ballistics Laboratory Altair final (second) stage rocket motor, as well as the payload or payloads, in the Thor-Burner I / Thor-Altair. (Some--if not all--of the Thor-Burner I rockets used Altair-type second--top--stage motors; as with some other solid rocket motor types, other firms, such as--in this case--United Technologies Chemical Systems Division, with their FW-4 [the FW-4 was UT/CSD's "Altair," used as the Thor-Burner I, and some Scout & Delta vehicle, top stages, see: https://gobluechase.files.wordpress...lsion-final.pdf ], used the Allegany Ballistic Laboratory's much more famous Altair final stage rocket motor's name [even though UT/CSD didn't make the Altair motor], as "Thor-Altair" was much more recognizable and descriptive than "Thor-FW-4."


I will check to see what I have . . . THOR-related data is not plentiful, unfortunately.

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I will check to see what I have . . . THOR-related data is not plentiful, unfortunately.

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Thank You! Please take your time, as I'm not hurrying to do this. This is just the sort of information --a 'confirmatory note'--("This/these particular Scout payload fairing/fairings was/were also used in the Atlas-Able / Thor-Altair [or Thor-Burner I]) that could save a scale modeler a ^LOT^ of research time and drawing, if s/he simply knew (and could show, via an included note or notes that accompanied the drawing or drawings) that these vehicles, and the Scout, had the payload fairings in common, and:

(It's just like modeling the Delta E [TAID, Thrust-Augmented Improved Delta] or its next 'iteration or two,' which used the Thorad [the Long-Tank Thor] with three--or six--strap-on Castor booster motors, the latter of the two being called the "[Thorad] Delta Super Six." If a space modeler happened to also have Thor-Agena or Thorad-Agena drawings [with a note, or including a note or notes, in his or her Delta drawings--that mentioned that those improved Delta variants used "stock" Agena payload fairings], that bit of information would make the creation of a Delta E, Thorad-Delta, or [Thorad] Delta Super Six scale data pack considerably easier.)
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Thank You! Please take your time, as I'm not hurrying to do this. This is just the sort of information --a 'confirmatory note'--("This/these particular Scout payload fairing/fairings was/were also used in the Atlas-Able / Thor-Altair [or Thor-Burner I]) that could save a scale modeler a ^LOT^ of research time and drawing, if s/he simply knew (and could show, via an included note or notes that accompanied the drawing or drawings) that these vehicles, and the Scout, had the payload fairings in common, and:

(It's just like modeling the Delta E [TAID, Thrust-Augmented Improved Delta] or its next 'iteration or two,' which used the Thorad [the Long-Tank Thor] with three--or six--strap-on Castor booster motors, the latter of the two being called the "[Thorad] Delta Super Six." If a space modeler happened to also have Thor-Agena or Thorad-Agena drawings [with a note, or including a note or notes, in his or her Delta drawings--that mentioned that those improved Delta variants used "stock" Agena payload fairings], that bit of information would make the creation of a Delta E, Thorad-Delta, or [Thorad] Delta Super Six scale data pack considerably easier.)


I posted my THOR-related data ( such as it is ).

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I posted my THOR-related data ( such as it is ).

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