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Old 09-20-2023, 09:08 AM
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I did a build night at eRockets to start my staycation last night. One of the guys brought in his TLP Nike Ajax, apparently a long time project that he is only now getting back to. Another attendee mentioned that he had a TLP Bullpup 12C that is complete but for the instructions. He lost them when they moved his stuff while he was in the hospital. Do any of you have the instructions for this bird? I'd hate to see something this cool go unbuilt.
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Probably worth grabbing this plan Pak for sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/351958078449
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Old 09-21-2023, 09:29 AM
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Probably worth grabbing this plan Pak for sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/351958078449

I did, but someone at TRF said that they thought the plan pak and the kit had different main tubes and overall length.
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I think these iterations of plan packs are just the kit instructions and parts lists. Hence the big black bars covering the mention of kit in the face card photo.

They are not the same as the older plan packs actually sold by TLP.

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I think these iterations of plan packs are just the kit instructions and parts lists. Hence the big black bars covering the mention of kit in the face card photo.

They are not the same as the older plan packs actually sold by TLP.

kj

I was the one on TRF that said the plan pack dimensions are smaller than the kit.
Wolverine Rocketry is the former Uncle Mike's Rocket Shack.
They were selling the TLP Bullpup 12C pack a few years ago and I bought one thinking to clone the TLP kit. You would have to enlarge the templates and dimensions by 2.2% in order to reproduce the kit.
I haven't heard about Wolverine/Uncle Mike's putting out a new iteration of plan packs. Where did you hear that from?
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:18 PM
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My comment is only based on what I remember being offered as plan packs by TLP back in the day-
GUIDELINE SA-2
NIKE HERCULES
SCIMITAR
SCUD-B (SS-1C)
STANDARD RIM-67A
WARLOCK

I did find a reference that the Bullpup 12C was converted from a plan pack to a kit back in 1998, so sure it's possible that is a real plan pack.

Could be that in the death throws of TLP in 2013 plan packs of these kits were released. I don't know and it wouldn't be until you could compare one of these with the kit instructions that you'd know for sure. None of the TLP kits I have match the ones being sold.
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:41 PM
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Uncle Mike's has been selling original TLP plan packs for decades.
TLP was selling plan packs before they decided to sell them as kits.
In some, if not most cases the kits dimensions are the same as the plan packs.
However, I know that in at least two cases the plan pack instructions are different than the kit instructions.
The Nike Hercules plan pack instructions are for a two stage clustered build.
The kit was single stage, single 29 mm motor mount.
And as mentioned, the plan pack instructions for the Bullpup AGM12C uses smaller dimensions than the kit.
I know because I am looking at it in my hand.
Last time I checked, TLP was still up for sale. Has been for several years now.
Wolverine/Uncle Mike's would not be able to revise plan pack instructions to kit instructions without purchasing the rights from TLP.
Let's avoid speculation and stick with what we know.
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