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Old 04-14-2009, 05:48 PM
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Default What about an Estes - Semroc merger???

IN MY OPINION.

As we all know, Estes is up for sale.
We also know that Excelsior is also up for sale.

Along with that, we have these other fine companies such as Semroc, Quest, Sunward and Fliskits just to mention a few.

Wouldn't it be nice if all of the above mentioned could be merged together into one super rocket company.

We would have the talent from each of these, many of our requests would be answered and any debate over who makes what and for how much would be put to rest.

Out of the current owners, you could have a board of directors, each year the president of the new company would change so that everyopne would hold that position. If you didn't want to have a board, then, they could act as department heads. I'm sure that each of the current owners hold many talents that the new company would benefit from.

Not only would the mass market be covered, the hobby shops, mailorder and other outlets as well.

We could have a vast amount of quality material at our disposal , both foreign and domestic.
And with Excelsior, we would have an outlet for quality decals as well.

We could pick and choose what motors we want, China made Quest motors, American made Estes motors and if anyone else would want to participate, maybe we would have the B14's and C11's back.

The kit assortment would be endless, endless opportunities for more expansion than ever, even more than when the two giants in the hobby were going head to head, Estes and Centuri.

You could also add to that by bringing in the NAR with it's Sport Rocketry Magazine and LAUNCH, both quality publications.

Oh, I forgot to mention, why not Aerotech as well, let's have all bases covered, plenty of motors of all types.

The hobby could expand 10 fold, everyone would be happy and the hobby could expand to new heights.

But, what do we call this MEGA model rocket company, why not use the original MMI name, where it all started.

It's an WIN WIN situation, not only would the above mentioned companies benefit, but, we the hobbyists, model rocketeers as well.

Just a thought.
What's your opinion.
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:54 PM
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Agreed; it's a win - win deal!
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:56 PM
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Ahem,

Gentlemen, I believe that's called a monopoly. And like many similar situations, everything will start off benevolent, but eventually human nature (read greed) will kick in and the buyers will suffer.

Bad idea.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:09 PM
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Ahem,

Gentlemen, I believe that's called a monopoly. And like many similar situations, everything will start off benevolent, but eventually human nature (read greed) will kick in and the buyers will suffer.

Bad idea.


I wouldn't consider it a monopoly, there are still plenty of companies out there producing model rockets, and who;s to say that all of the above would participate?

Whjat about the postal service, you talk about monopolies?????And the rate is going up next month.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:11 PM
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I wouldn't consider it a monopoly, there are still plenty of companies out there producing model rockets, and who;s to say that all of the above would participate?

Whjat about the postal service, you talk about monopolies?????And the rate is going up next month.


USPS is a government agency, not a private company running solely for profit. That's a huge difference.
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:06 PM
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I will just mention the following four names. Look up their history, circa 1992-93.


Microbrick
Rocketflite
Energon
Dangerous Dave's Composites.


Mergers are tricky things. Often times very little good comes out of them.
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Old 04-14-2009, 08:43 PM
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One of the companies you mentioned, Semroc, probably wouldn't sign up for that. Carl stated in the past that this one of the downfalls of Semroc in the original incarnation (too many with a vested interest in the company and too many chiefs) and vowed to not let the company get too far out of his reach again. Apparently Sheryl agrees. Frankensteining a bunch of great rocket companies together is fun dream, and sounds like a great proposition, but I like the identities that each of these companies has made for themselves. Pulling the talents together and making a dream team would have some distinct advantages, but the logistics would be a nightmare.
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Agree. Nightmare is the term that popped into my head when I read this.
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One of the companies you mentioned, Semroc, probably wouldn't sign up for that. Carl stated in the past that this one of the downfalls of Semroc in the original incarnation (too many with a vested interest in the company and too many chiefs) and vowed to not let the company get too far out of his reach again. Apparently Sheryl agrees. Frankensteining a bunch of great rocket companies together is fun dream, and sounds like a great proposition, but I like the identities that each of these companies has made for themselves. Pulling the talents together and making a dream team would have some distinct advantages, but the logistics would be a nightmare.
You remember well!

As long as I am alive, Semroc will never be for sale or participate in a merger. It IS my retirement, because I forgot how to fish and relax years ago. I meet more really good people on every trip than I EVER met in electronics.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:30 PM
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Yep. That's why your April fools joke didn't make any sense. Just left me feeling a little hungry for some reason. Good try though!
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