RDS motors were made by DPT using my designs, ACS DOT papers and DPT and RDS even got ATF LEMP at TRA request and even CSFM approval only to be rejected by TRA as "Jerry motors".

Mick would have been able to fill the entire void left by the Errortech accident. TRA kept ACS, RDS, DPT, and even CTI out of the market to "give AT a chance to recover". TRA "let" AT contract through Ellis.

That whole 4 year era was a mess.

Mick had some interesting motors made that even USR didn't contract, like a progressive trace whitestar and stardust K675 and L750 54mm.

Jerry

I take it that was about the same thing that happened in the R/C plane world back in the 80's!?!

I had gotten out of R/C while in the Airforce. A friend of mine said the clubs were all lead by doctors and lawyers that wouldn't even talk to you unless your airplane cost more than $400. Even the old timers that founded the clubs were being pushed out after a while. And, it was getting to where you couldn't enter an event because, conveniently, only the expensive kits were 'certified'...

Thanks for the info, Jerry. Yeah I remember Mike saying that I should try real motors like his "K" and"L's."

You are right, those years were messed up, and Mike was fighting hard on all fronts.

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PML motors weer also relabeled Aerotech.

And way back in the day, ASC and CMR motors were relabeled AVI motors.

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Our club Claremont Rocket Society was a Centuri and Estes dealer in the clubhouse. We bought a bunch of AVI motors as well as FSI.

Jerry

Bob, when did CMR sell motors? Do you have any (or more to the point - PHOTOS)?

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NAR 12081, TRA 1795 L3
SoAR 004, TARA 005, MDRA 032

L1 cert: AAA Magnum PA Crude/Vulcan H100 Smokey Sam
L2 cert: LOC/Precision Magnum/Aerotech J350
L3 cert: Smokin' Rockets Nike Smoke/Aerotech M1315

Ditto.

Jerry

DPS was an abortion from Lucerne.

I was the first dealer for IBCo, Plasmajet, AT, and CD #2.

Dale,

FWIW, the 1972 catalog on ninfinger lists them as (re-)selling MPC and FSI motors. http://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/ca...72/72cmr20.html

Doug

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Estes remanufactured motors for Irv Wait's RDC for a while before he started making his own.
Estes alo made the motorsfor Rocket SUpply Company.
Estes also sold motors to Central Rocket Co.

AVI made some motors for both Cox and Canaroc.

MMI and CRC both sold Brown Manufactured Rock-A-Chutes


EDIT

while we are on this topic I thought I would provide the following historical information:

Between 5/6/1960 and 8/1/1965 Estes Industries sold the following number of engines to the following:

1. Centuri Engineering 198,009
2. RDC 12,572
3. Rocket Supply Co 2,842
4. United Scientific Co/Central Rocket Co. 25,200


Between Nov-Dec 1957 and January 1959 MMI sold 117,984 engines . These were Brown Manufactured by his Zenith Specialties Co.

MMI sold 12,422 units ie model rocket kits

Between 3/31/1961 and 2/25/64 Estes Industries purchased 76,000 red or pink polyethelene parachutes from MMI

Between Oct 1959 and Dec 1964 Orv Carlisle sold 5, 021 Brown Manufactured Rock-A-Chutes to Central Rocket Co (CRC) and 1,690 Kits


terry dean

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