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Old 02-11-2017, 08:08 AM
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Not to mention that it has ruined some of the fun of the hobby. Would the Red Maxx have been as big a seller if the instructions were on a par with the Alpha's instructions of the same period?

It wouldn't have mattered. People weren't buying the Red Maxx because of the instructions.
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Like everything Semroc, Carl's instructions were the BEST. They combined the best parts of the old Centuri and Estes instructions of the past.
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Not only was the old style instructions from Estes and Centuri great, but I love reading the descriptions of the rockets in the Estes catalog!
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It wouldn't have mattered. People weren't buying the Red Maxx because of the instructions.


Maybe not, but it sure added to the build experience!
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As I mentioned in a build thread elsewhere:

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So the more I get into this build, the more convinced I become that the reason this is a level five build is due to the instructions being so bad.

It is my opinion that a reason there are not as many youth interested in Model Rocketry, is that the instructions are so poor that a youth would give up in frustration trying to decipher the hieroglyphics that Estes rocket instructions have become. I understand that the wordless instructions make it easier to become multinational, but frustrating youth and their parents worldwide is not really a good thing in the long run.


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Hey Bernie,

The good news about those instructions is that they prepare you quite well for scratch-building -- figuring out on your own how to put everything together.
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I like the OLD way Estes instructions were. NOT the overly-pic-heavy new ones.


I agree...

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Since we're talking about it...do mine offer a good combination of written explanation? I would guess they should be written such that one could assemble the kit without the 3d diagrams, although occasionally I think it's better to include a diagram for clarity. A nice clear diagram, maybe with some 3d shading, a nice angle, a happy little cloud up in the corner...
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Default Shrox Skonk Wulf instructions

I haven't started my Skonk Wulf build yet but after reading through the instructions I don't see any disconnects or obvious "gotchas" - seems clear, concise, logical and well layed out.

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I haven't started my Skonk Wulf build yet but after reading through the instructions I don't see any disconnects or obvious "gotchas" - seems clear, concise, logical and well layed out.


Cool. I like the combination of visual and written. One plastic model from Monogram I had as a kid in the 70's was completely pictorial, and had some issues I remember.
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