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Old 04-06-2016, 09:30 AM
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I just noticed this kit on the Estes website. It looks like a more streamlined version of the Apogee II. The booster looks very similar to the Apogee booster and the upper stage is more Alpha-esque than the Ranger/Bertha-esque upper stage of the Apogee.

Has anyone flown one yet? I'm very tempted to get one.


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Old 04-06-2016, 10:03 AM
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Rob, it's much cheaper from AC Supply.

http://www.acsupplyco.com/estes/taser_twin.htm

At that price you can buy two!
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I just noticed this kit on the Estes website. It looks like a more streamlined version of the Apogee II. The booster looks very similar to the Apogee booster and the upper stage is more Alpha-esque than the Ranger/Bertha-esque upper stage of the Apogee.


I saw the upper stage and was reminded of the old Estes Sky Hook.
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I saw the upper stage and was reminded of the old Estes Sky Hook.

Looking closer at the fin, it does appear to have that Sky Hook shape. I also watched the video and the staging is old school with the motors taped together and friction fit into the mounts. It looks like a cool rocket and at least a partial return to the Golden Age of Model Rocketry.
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Rob, it's much cheaper from AC Supply.

http://www.acsupplyco.com/estes/taser_twin.htm

At that price you can buy two!


That's a killer price! Thanks for the tip.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:38 PM
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Given that at just one club launch last year, I think there were three Taser Twins and of those one sustainer core sampled (because the owner got the motors mixed up) and two sustainers were never seen again, buying two might be a good idea.
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Launch it on a B6-0, A8-0, or 1/2A6-0 in the booster and an A8-5 or 1/2A6-4 in the sustainer and you will get it back.
Launch it on a C6-0 to ANYTHING virtually guarantees you will lose it unless either launching in a HUGE field or using a streamer for recovery.
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Launch it on a B6-0, A8-0, or 1/2A6-0 in the booster and an A8-5 or 1/2A6-4 in the sustainer and you will get it back.
Launch it on a C6-0 to ANYTHING virtually guarantees you will lose it unless either launching in a HUGE field or using a streamer for recovery.

Got that right. I'd even go farther and say no matter how large your field, start out with no more than an A8-0 to A8-5 so that you can get accustomed to how fast it leaves and how tiny it is at altitude. It will fly higher and faster than an equivalent minimum diameter single stage on a B4 or B6. Work your way up one motor at a time until you almost lose it! The older you are, and the fewer people tracking, the more important it is!
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I used to launch my Astron Sprint on B14-7's and C6-7's all the time when I was younger.
That's a small single-stage BT-50 with a boat-tail that really gets up there on a C6-7 to over 1600' but is easily recovered/tracked with a 90" streamer.
I'd ditch the chute in the Taser Twin and replace it with a streamer.
A chute on any BT-20 based rocket results in nothing but un-needed long walks in anything but calm conditions.
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I used to launch my Astron Sprint on B14-7's and C6-7's all the time when I was younger.
That's a small single-stage BT-50 with a boat-tail that really gets up there on a C6-7 to over 1600' but is easily recovered/tracked with a 90" streamer.
I'd ditch the chute in the Taser Twin and replace it with a streamer.
A chute on any BT-20 based rocket results in nothing but un-needed long walks in anything but calm conditions.

Yep, ditch the chute. Even with calm surface air, a high altitude flight can hit a thermal and drift forever. I don't even understand why the Apogee and Apogee II shipped with a 10" chute back when streamer recovery was still cool.

Another reason to start small is that the booster is easy to lose even with a B6-0 if the field has any growth on it because you are so worried about tracking that little sustainer. You really need a second set of eyes that you can trust to track the booster all the way down instead of peaking at the sustainer.
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