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Old 03-18-2016, 04:30 PM
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Always thought that kit was awful then and is still awful now.
Wouldn't offer $1.98 for one.
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:27 PM
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Is that the BT-60 Saturn V??

Why would Semroc need to reproduce it?? Dr. Zooch already has, for years... you can get them from Apogee and others right now...

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I didn't think about that. I have a Apollo 5 Saturn IB downstairs waiting for me to start on it.
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Old 03-19-2016, 12:10 PM
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I didn't think about that. I have a Apollo 5 Saturn IB downstairs waiting for me to start on it.



Yep... I've built the Zooch Saturn V... Wes patterned it directly after the BT-60 Estes Saturn V, with "improvements" (like no dorky "supplemental fins")

It flies great and looks good for that size of a Saturn V... I've got a build thread on it somewhere around here...

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Old 03-19-2016, 12:13 PM
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Always thought that kit was awful then and is still awful now.
Wouldn't offer $1.98 for one.


I love his kits. They take a some skills to make them look 'scale' but when completed, they look fantastic! Prices are quite fair, too. I have built several, and it never fails at a sponsored launch, folks want to know all about them. Nothing on the market comes close for the size or impression. They are challenging to build and are a nice change of pace even for the experienced builder. The finished Dr.Zooch rockets all look quite nice! I have nearly every kit he offers and have built 5. I like to scale mine up; even cut tiny wire to make a realistic escape tower on my Sat.1B.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:04 PM
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I love his kits. They take a some skills to make them look 'scale' but when completed, they look fantastic! Prices are quite fair, too. I have built several, and it never fails at a sponsored launch, folks want to know all about them. Nothing on the market comes close for the size or impression. They are challenging to build and are a nice change of pace even for the experienced builder. The finished Dr.Zooch rockets all look quite nice! I have nearly every kit he offers and have built 5. I like to scale mine up; even cut tiny wire to make a realistic escape tower on my Sat.1B.
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Agree, love the Dr. Zooch kits...

I thought GH was referring to the original Estes kit being lousy...

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I was referring to the original Estes K-39 semi-scale Saturn V as being a POS.
That kit could and should have been SO much more detailed.
I have no problem with the Dr. Zooch kits and like them.
His Mercury Redstone is a nice re-creation of a simpler Estes K-41, his Space Shuttle full-stack is nice, and the Pointy-nose Saturn I is really cool.
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I was referring to the original Estes K-39 semi-scale Saturn V as being a POS.
That kit could and should have been SO much more detailed.
I have no problem with the Dr. Zooch kits and like them.
His Mercury Redstone is a nice re-creation of a simpler Estes K-41, his Space Shuttle full-stack is nice, and the Pointy-nose Saturn I is really cool.



Sorry GH; no offense intended!
Because your response was after Luke's, I thought you were referring to the Dr.Zooch kits.
The main reason I like the old Estes Bt-60 Sat V is its nostalgic value to me. I built one when I was 12 ( I think) and thought it was cool. Have to agree with you on the clear fins for stability, though. The one on EBay now is WAY out of my price range, tho!
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:19 PM
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Sorry GH; no offense intended!
Because your response was after Luke's, I thought you were referring to the Dr.Zooch kits.
The main reason I like the old Estes Bt-60 Sat V is its nostalgic value to me. I built one when I was 12 ( I think) and thought it was cool. Have to agree with you on the clear fins for stability, though. The one on EBay now is WAY out of my price range, tho!
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Wes has basically said the Estes BT-60 Saturn V was the inspiration for the Zooch Saturn V... only he wanted to do it better, without the stupid supplementary fins and with greater detail...

It's a nice looking and nice flyer. Dunno about the Estes one-- never had one or seen one built...

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Old 03-21-2016, 02:54 PM
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My dad in 1979 picked up the K-41 Mercury Redstone, 1284 full-stack Space Shuttle, and the semi-scale K-39 Saturn V kits for me to build together with him when I was 9 years old.
To this day the ONLY thing I have ever returned to a hobby shop was that K-39 Saturn V.
At age 9 I knew it was a POS and don't know what Dad was thinking. Returned it and picked up a Nike-Ajax and LTV Scout instead. I actually explained to Dad at age 9 why the K-39 was such a lousy kit. He then agreed and we headed back to the hobby shop.
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