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Old 10-16-2007, 04:04 PM
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This question didn't fit in any of the other posts so I'll just stick it here

Is a BAR (Born again rocketeer) mean they are Christian? Just curious.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:21 PM
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This question didn't fit in any of the other posts so I'll just stick it here

Is a BAR (Born again rocketeer) mean they are Christian? Just curious.


Assuming you're being serious, no. Or at least not necessarilly...

It means you did rocketry years ago as a kid, left the hobby for a good long time, and are now back (usually with particular vigor...).

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/model-rockets/BAR/ should answer all you need to know...

-Tim (who DOES happen to be a Christian...)
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:41 PM
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what Tim said .

I've also seen it as YABAR ( yet another born again rocketeer ).

The born-again part coming from the reentry into the hobby after years away.

Being a semi-devout Baptist myself, the ' Born-Again' thing used to bother me slightly, but it's not meant to be detrimental, so no big deal .

Not trying to start a religious debate, sorry. ( not sure you meant that either ). I do recall when I got a catalog years back from , iirc, Aerospace design ( something like that, they sold planpacks, I don;t have the catalog in front of me right now - do recall they attached a post-it on my order re: " glad to find a TRUE born-again rocketeer " , after a comment I;d made, so apparently others have thought on the nomenclature before.

just my 2 talents worth . now back to our old rockets

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Old 10-16-2007, 11:30 PM
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Is a BAR (Born again rocketeer) mean they are Christian? Just curious.
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Assuming you're being serious, no. Or at least not necessarily...
<Theological mode ON> Are all Born-Again Rocketeers "spiritually regenerated," in the biblical sense? No. (--And yes, I realize I didn't capitalize "biblical.") <Theological mode OFF>


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It means you did rocketry years ago as a kid, left the hobby for a good long time, and are now back (usually with particular vigor...).

-Tim (who DOES happen to be a Christian...)
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I've also seen it as YABAR (yet another born again rocketeer).

Being a semi-devout Baptist myself, the 'Born-Again' thing used to bother me slightly, but it's not meant to be detrimental, so no big deal.
I have a buddy who didn't like the "Born-Again" phrase, and he wanted to replace it with "Back Again" Rocketeer. I told him *that* phrase made me think of the passage in Proverbs that talks about a dog returning to its vomit.

So the point is, it's just a matter of the "same words" having a different meaning, depending on your personal frame of reference.


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(who cleverly evades the inquiry regarding his spiritual condition)
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:03 AM
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To me it meant your INTEREST/PASSION/INVOLVEMENT in rocketry was/were re-born..
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:40 AM
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Very interesting. I would have never thought that the phrase had a religious tone in it.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:24 AM
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<Theological mode ON> Are all Born-Again Rocketeers "spiritually regenerated," in the biblical sense? No. (--And yes, I realize I didn't capitalize "biblical.") <Theological mode OFF>

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--Jay
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:37 PM
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OK everyone calm down, I just asked a question. Besides, whats wrong with being a Christian anyway? I'm one.

So a BAR is some old person interested in rockets ? Am I the only person here that is under 18?
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:08 PM
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OK everyone calm down, I just asked a question. Besides, whats wrong with being a Christian anyway? I'm one.

So a BAR is some old person interested in rockets ? Am I the only person here that is under 18?


No. There are a couple including my son who has been reading this forum for a while and finally became a member this week.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:12 PM
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You don't actually have to be old to be a BAR, but most of us are over say 35.
It just means you left the hobby for an extended period of time an then came back.
In my case, I was involved from about 1977 to 1987, then left due to college, career, getting married, and TONS of other activities ...came back in 1999 with a vengeance and probably have purchased in the past eight years at least 4 times the kits I bought the first 10 years.

One common thread among most BARs is that they almost universally share a fondness toward all the "golden-era" model rocket kits from about 1960 to 1980.
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