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Old 10-09-2010, 09:20 PM
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These rockets were sold on a cardboard backing with the rocket encased under a clear plastic blister. I kept the cardboard backing for both rockets. While the front side was specific to each rocket, the backside was the same on all the models and provided the instructions for flying the rocket.


The cardback instructions are presented in a similar format in the Firing Line set's instruction manual. The backing card's cutaway art is used in the cavity the Vampire occupies, but with the illustration to the left of the rocket, rather than the right.

They're a nice, rather retro graphic design. I like the cutaway, which would have been 'educational' I expect!

Nice of you to save them!
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Old 10-10-2010, 12:00 PM
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Here's a test of the body decal. I'm not really satisfied with the red line work, and will probably re-do it. The red seems closer to the somewhat muted red mentioned earlier and seen in some of the artwork. If the red seems closer to the example of folks like joeld1212 here who've actually got/had a Vampire, then I'll tweak the fin decal red to match.

I took some artistic license and replaced the word Estes with the logo they were using at the time, which I think better fits the style of the time.
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:44 PM
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Here's a test of the body decal. I'm not really satisfied with the red line work, and will probably re-do it. The red seems closer to the somewhat muted red mentioned earlier and seen in some of the artwork. If the red seems closer to the example of folks like joeld1212 here who've actually got/had a Vampire, then I'll tweak the fin decal red to match.
I haven't had my Estes Vampire for about 13 years, but the shade of red that you used looks about right compared to what I remember. The original decal's red was eye-catching and stood out well against the black background, but it was not "luminously bright" (as a fluorescent red would be), either.
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I took some artistic license and replaced the word Estes with the logo they were using at the time, which I think better fits the style of the time.
That "MPC-style" Estes name lettering does 'nick well' with the rest of the decal's design, and it may not be totally artistic license, as the Vampire may have been in production long enough for the decal to have been updated to have that lettering in later production runs.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:56 PM
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AcroRay: Very nicely done! You've pretty much hit the nail on the head with the red color.
And I agree with you the Estes logo style you've chosen looks more appropriate for that time frame.

The following are the differences I note between your design and the one on my Vampire. Take them for what they're worth:

The two sentences under "Estes Vampire" are in red and are written in a straight up and down font rather than leaning slightly to the right.

1/2 A3-2T is in the same font.

The two balls have a black circle outline in their center.

The upper and lower lines of the design are closer together [there's less black between them].

The right side end of the design is completely rounded [no corners at all].

The two left side corners of the design [directly below where the design, I guess, begins and ends] are also quite a bit more rounded.

These may or may not be important details. Just a few things that I noticed.
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These may or may not be important details. Just a few things that I noticed.

Excellent information! Very helpful! Thanks!
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-SNIP- The two balls have a black circle outline in their center.

The upper and lower lines of the design are closer together [there's less black between them] -SNIP-.
This design (the balls and lines) always struck me as being a stylized depiction of the fairly common "father-and-son" launch poses in catalog photographs, with the son crouching in front while the taller father stands (perhaps leaning forward slightly) behind him.
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This design (the balls and lines) always struck me as being a stylized depiction of the fairly common "father-and-son" launch poses in catalog photographs, with the son crouching in front while the taller father stands (perhaps leaning forward slightly) behind him.

Humn! Very interesting! I was rather wondering what it was supposed to signify. That makes sense!

Here's another test. Messed with the fonts, but not the lines & balls...

Presented vertical, as it would be seen on the rocket.
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Humn! Very interesting! I was rather wondering what it was supposed to signify. That makes sense!
Thank you. Also, the image on the similar-but-not-identical decal on the Estes "Firing Line" Banshee (see: http://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/ca...s73/73est8.html ) looks like it could be a variation of the "father-and-son" depiction.
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Here's another test. Messed with the fonts, but not the lines & balls...

Presented vertical, as it would be seen on the rocket.
I'm tempted to order Semroc www.semroc.com parts for a Vampire clone that this could go on...
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Well, when I'm done they'll be available for download somehow. (I just need to find a convenient distro method.)

I guess you could also buy an Estes Jinx and paint it black!
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Well, when I'm done they'll be available for download somehow. (I just need to find a convenient distro method.)

I guess you could also buy an Estes Jinx and paint it black!
Thank you for making them available! If I could find a Jinx (I haven't searched for one, but I imagine they're still available from some vendors or on eBay), I'd go that route.
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