Ye Olde Rocket Forum

Go Back   Ye Olde Rocket Forum > Work Bench > Building Techniques
User Name
Password
Auctions Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Search Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #21  
Old 09-11-2017, 07:50 AM
jeffk813 jeffk813 is offline
Balsa Junkie
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 31
Default

Nothing like resurrecting a six-month old thread, but I wanted to add that my youngest son has some learning issues, and has a difficult time with pattern and spatial relationships. Put simply, he doesn't do well with pictogram-only type instructions. He's been trying to build some recent Estes kits and is getting increasingly frustrated because the instructions don't make sense to him.

I'm not suggesting that the kit manufacturers "dumb down" the instructions... In fact, I think the Estes instructions are already "dumbed down" too far. EXPLAIN to a person what they're doing and why. Those who don't need the explanation can skip it. Those who do will appreciate having it.

As someone who is working on a few new kit offerings myself, I know what a time-consuming task well-written instructions are, but I think that taking that time and putting forth that effort helps modelers to build better kits and to learn from the experience.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 10-12-2017, 10:21 AM
Blastfromthepast Blastfromthepast is offline
'nother Old Fart BAR....
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Castle Rock, Colorado
Posts: 106
Default

I'm wondering if we'll ever see model rocket instructions produced along the same lines as those used for LEGO sets - 100% pictorial.
__________________
Just remember...G. Harry Stine's first ever model rocket was an RTF !

Check out my wonderful model rocketry blog here:
https://castlerocketeer.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10-12-2017, 11:10 AM
naoto's Avatar
naoto naoto is offline
Intermediate Rocketeer
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Monrovia, CA
Posts: 85
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blastfromthepast
I'm wondering if we'll ever see model rocket instructions produced along the same lines as those used for LEGO sets - 100% pictorial.

.. or like Ikea instructions?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f6PLFNjbL...argate-ikea.png
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/83/8a/43/...ravel-legos.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-12-2017, 12:02 PM
Joe Shockcord's Avatar
Joe Shockcord Joe Shockcord is offline
Craftsman
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 109
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffk813
...In fact, I think the Estes instructions are already "dumbed down" too far. EXPLAIN to a person what they're doing and why. Those who don't need the explanation can skip it. Those who do will appreciate having it.


AMEN!!

I thought I was alone in my frustration with these kind of instructions.
__________________
Living life on the edge...launching C's on a B field.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-12-2017, 01:28 PM
Initiator001's Avatar
Initiator001 Initiator001 is offline
Too Many Initiators is Never Enough
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,759
Default

Creating instructions was/is the most difficult part of producing a new model rocket kit.

In my opinion, the true test of a hobby rocket 'kit designer' is not developing the model, it's making the instructions.

I am working on the instructions for a new model rocket kit right now. I forgot how much time/effort was involved in doing this since the last time I performed this duty 25 years ago.
__________________
Bob
S.A.M. # 0014
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-12-2017, 02:23 PM
Rocket Babe's Avatar
Rocket Babe Rocket Babe is offline
Sci-fi Heroine
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Alabama
Posts: 67
Default

As for getting the job done, I'm fine either way but striking a balance between the two is best.

Estes has always provided good clear instructions. I Love the 2001 instructions, you can almost read them for pleasure like a good book but the trend is toward language free with many photos and that's for just about anything you buy as DIY.

As for vendors other than Estes I have never had a problem but I do have a favorite.

David Miller at Sirius Rocketry currently provides what I think are the best instructions for the kits he produces. They are worded well and with just enough photos; a happy balance.

Of course Dave is a builder / flyer / vendor, so he knows what most of us are used to using.

Verna
www.vernarockets.com
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HHJHOK6
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O14ET8K
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10-12-2017, 05:32 PM
DeanHFox's Avatar
DeanHFox DeanHFox is offline
Incurable Model Rocketeer
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Metro Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 439
Send a message via Yahoo to DeanHFox
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Babe
As for getting the job done, I'm fine either way but striking a balance between the two is best.

Estes has always provided good clear instructions. I Love the 2001 instructions, you can almost read them for pleasure like a good book but the trend is toward language free with many photos and that's for just about anything you buy as DIY.

As for vendors other than Estes I have never had a problem but I do have a favorite.

David Miller at Sirius Rocketry currently provides what I think are the best instructions for the kits he produces. They are worded well and with just enough photos; a happy balance.

Of course Dave is a builder / flyer / vendor, so he knows what most of us are used to using.

+1 to everything said in this post.

Good instructions are hard to do, and Dave really nails it.
__________________
Dean Fox
NAR #53946SR

---- "Wherever you go, there you are"
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 10-12-2017, 05:52 PM
luke strawwalker's Avatar
luke strawwalker luke strawwalker is offline
BAR
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Needville and Shiner, TX
Posts: 5,711
Default

Don't forget Wes's instructions in the Dr. Zooch kits... comedy and instructions with comic illustrations all in the same package...

Later! OL J R
__________________
The X-87B Cruise Basselope-- THE Ultimate Weapon in the arsenal of Homeland Security and only $52 million per round!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:54 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe 1998-2017