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Old 09-08-2012, 03:02 PM
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"A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

It wouldn't matter if god himself told them they were wrong. Fox told them otherwise.

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You guys do know it has been proven several times that this movie is full of holes and conveniently edited interviews?!?
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:29 PM
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You guys do know it has been proven several times that this movie is full of holes and conveniently edited interviews?!?
Even if true it does not offset my own observation, "This film, "2016: Obama's America", which is a rare insight into what journalism could be if any effort at all were applied", and Johathan's observation, "OBAMA'S OWN RELATIVES who have NEVER been asked questions about Obama from ANY Western media/film crew! Obama's vision for America is a hybrid of France-Kenya-and a dash of China. He is a Socialist/Marxiist-light visionary; a radical. For some of you, this is a shared vision."

To take your possibly correct comment and disregard the totality of the work or its implication would be exactly like disposing of solar power development because Solyndra was a financial failure and a subsequent political football.

Reality resides in the middle gray areas. The intentional distractions and obfuscations and misdirections of the current political rhetoric is worth identifying, exposing and resolving.

As for reflexive and intellectually disconnected remarks, they also are present:

Olivola: " "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." It wouldn't matter if god himself told them they were wrong. Fox told them otherwise."

As even Jonathan noted: "Folks, this isn't a 'get the lefty hatchet job' documentary. This is what the media should have done to Obama back in 2007 - 2008 and they didn't. The people in this film have NEVER been interviewed. OH, and just so if you 'lefties' think its just a bunch of angry racist white men and sell-outs like me who are saying bad things about your man, the people interviewed in the film are Obama's own relatives!!! "

So I suppose even "FoxNoise", like a broken clock, is right twice a day.

A broken clock has Olivola beat on that score.

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Old 09-08-2012, 07:47 PM
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Please provide a link to the 'proof'.

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The "next thing" is a movie called "Last Ounce Of Courage (2012)", Opening 9-14-12. Unlike the other it opens on 600 screens nationwide. This is the movie that should open worldwide so the ROW gets a taste of freedom, TEA party style. (ie. not tea bagger)

It turns out there is nothing keeping the world from doing what a few radicals did in the English colony in 1770-6. Hmmm.

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"A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

It wouldn't matter if god himself told them they were wrong. Fox told them otherwise.


Please post a link to the truth.

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Old 09-08-2012, 08:37 PM
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/0...-america/189581

http://politicalfilm.wordpress.com/...t-wing-machine/

That it's a Dinesh D'Souza thing explains why the right loves it and also why it's bunk.

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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/0...-america/189581

http://politicalfilm.wordpress.com/...t-wing-machine/

That it's a Dinesh D'Souza thing explains why the right loves it and also why it's bunk.


Media Matters is a left-wing think tank:

http://mediamatters.org/

A non-profit progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the ...

See this is why you and I and people like us are DESTROYING America ... we are so hell bent on our own opinions of reality, we are destroying all others...

Please post proof from a non-biased organization or writer without political spin. If you can't then the truth lays somewhere between you and the movie.

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Oh, and I guess you feel the media gave us all we needed to know about him, his background, his friends, etc?
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Oh, and I guess you feel the media gave us all we needed to know about him, his background, his friends, etc?



You talking Bill Ayers and the Weathermen Underground of the 1960's and 70's where they would bomb police (Pig) stations?

You mean the SAME Bill Ayers who lives down the street from O, and where O started his political career for IL Senate?

I am not going to go into this anymore ... I get angry ... seriously angry. The time for talking is OVER! Its now time for Civil War II ... winner take all, loser leaves the country!

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INTERESTING ... NONE OF MY FRIENDS MAKE BOMBS TO KILL AUTHORITY ... Obama's friends do!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Further information: Weather Underground (organization)

Ayers became involved in the New Left and the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS).[10] He rose to national prominence as an SDS leader in 1968 and 1969. As head of an SDS regional group, the "Jesse James Gang," Ayers made decisive contributions to the Weatherman orientation toward militancy.

The group Ayers headed in Detroit, Michigan became one of the earliest gatherings of what became the Weatherman. Before the June 1969 SDS convention, Ayers became a prominent leader of the group, which arose as a result of a schism in SDS.[8] "During that time his infatuation with street fighting grew and he developed a language of confrontational militancy that became more and more pronounced over the year [1969]", disaffected former Weatherman member Cathy Wilkerson wrote in 2001. Ayers had previously been a roommate of Terry Robbins, a fellow militant who was killed in 1970 along with Ayers' girlfriend Oughton and one other member in the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion, while constructing anti-personnel bombs intended for a non-commissioned officer dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey.[11] Ayers was living in Michigan at that time.

In June 1969, the Weatherman took control of the SDS at its national convention, where Ayers was elected Education Secretary.[8] Later in 1969, Ayers participated in planting a bomb at a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket affair confrontation between labor supporters and the Chicago police.[12] The blast broke almost 100 windows and blew pieces of the statue onto the nearby Kennedy Expressway.[13] (The statue was rebuilt and unveiled on May 4, 1970, and blown up again by other Weathermen on October 6, 1970.[13][14] Rebuilding it yet again, the city posted a 24-hour police guard to prevent another blast, and in January 1972 it was moved to Chicago police headquarters).[15]

Ayers participated in the Days of Rage riot in Chicago in October 1969, and in December was at the "War Council" meeting in Flint, Michigan. Two major decisions came out of the "War Council." The first was to immediately begin a violent, armed struggle (e.g., bombings and armed robberies) against the state without attempting to organize or mobilize a broad swath of the public. The second was to create underground collectives in major cities throughout the country.[16] Larry Grathwohl, a Federal Bureau of Investigation informant in the Weatherman group from the fall of 1969 to the spring of 1970, stated that "Ayers, along with Bernardine Dohrn, probably had the most authority within the Weatherman".[17]
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