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Old 04-02-2016, 08:36 PM
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...Such a model, with a thin-walled 3D printed plastic fuselage (plus Zenit display nozzles) and balsa wings and tail surfaces, could be flown as a boost-glider with a rear-ejecting motor pod. The pod could be ballasted up front (as with the Estes Space Shuttle #1467, see: https://www.estesrockets.com/media/...ACE_SHUTTLE.pdf ) and be parachute-recovered. One or two "auxiliary" fins (made of clear plastic or balsa) could be affixed to the rear end of the Star Booster's motor pod (which would protrude a couple of inches out the back end of the fuselage), to ensure the model's stability about all axes during the rocket-powered and pre-ejection coasting portions of its ascent. I would happily buy several of these Star Booster kits (they would be classified as Concept Scale models) if someone produced them, and I think many other folks would buy them, too.


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Folks,

I've established a new thread just for posting the products that were never produced from my personal collection and comments about said items.

The original thread remains for general discussion on the subject.
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Excellent--I'm glad to read this!
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Here's the Cylon Fighter from the 1979 Estes Catalog, from the Ninfinger Productions website and the Star Booster from the 1997 Estes Catalog. Would these be the two?


Yep, those are the ones I was thinking about.

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In the spirit of this thread I thought I'd post a few kits that didn't make it. In the early 90's I was working on the side at THOY mainly helping with cutting and prepping parts. Fins and rings were cut in house. Fins with a band saw and rings with a series of fly cutters on a drill press. We also cut tubes to length with jigs on a drill press. We also made some of the nicest nylon chutes available at the time. Fun work and I really treasure those memories with Rich, Jackie, and their daughters.

Rich had wanted to get into the smaller kit market and asked me to come up with some designs that flew on 18mm motors. I came up with and prototyped seven. Rich liked them all and decided to kit four right away. He wanted to debut them at the Chicago show that year. Those were the Taz, Macron, Thura, and Cluros. To this day I still suck at naming kits. A couple of the names I borrowed from the the John Carter of Mars book by Edgar Rice Burroughs.

There were three that didn't make the initial cut. A scale Nike Smoke, a futuristic design called Tavia, and a rear engine BG called the USS Intrepid. I still have the prototypes of those three. The Nike Smoke is still unpainted. It didn't make production due to the nose cone. The prototype cone was turned from pine on Rich's lathe. We didn't want to do that for production and he hadn't found a source for them. The Intrepid operated much like the Sky Dart and flew great. I demo'd it at NARAM 34 and it got a lot of positive attention. It needed more work on the elevon release and we just ran out of time. The Tavia also flew great, but I think Rich was holding it back to see how well the first four did.

I left THOY just before the Chicago show when I became too busy at work. Rich told me later the show went well for him and the four initial kits went into production. He did say Estes accused him plagiarizing one of their designs. ^_^ This would have been right around the time they were feeling threatened by Aerotech, so they were probably feeling defensive.

I believe it was about a year later when Rich sold THOY to Rocket R&D minus all of the 18mm kits and parts. I think Bob Jablonski purchased the 18mm stuff, but he can confirm that. Here are a couple of photos of the Tavia and Intrepid. The plans for the Tavia are online HERE . Maybe this will motivate me to finish the Intrepid plans.
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That Intrepid looks a LOT like the Sky Dart and could understand the concern by Estes.
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That Intrepid looks a LOT like the Sky Dart and could understand the concern by Estes.



Did you even read what I posted? The Intrepid was not produced and did not make it to Chicago. Estes never saw it. Besides that point, it looks nothing like a Skydart except it has a delta wing.
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Back in 2010 I had the pleasure of building only one Thoy kit--the Cluros.
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Looks just like the prototype. I have no idea where those ended up. Maybe Bob hs them.
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Looks just like the prototype. I have no idea where those ended up. Maybe Bob hs them.


It was my goal to finish it to look just like the model on the kit's face card.
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