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Old 04-12-2016, 12:12 AM
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Chrome mylar is much easier to track than silver.
Silver blends in with the sky, yet the least light shines brightly off chrome.
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:30 AM
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I actually am kind of down on minimal-sized staging rockets. They zoom along like crazy, but it is hard to retrieve them on the small fields I do spot flying and demonstration launches on.

I have a small-company two-stager that I hope to build light and use as a demonstration flyer.
When I started staging - when I BAR'd in 1999 - I remember flying my Midget on an A10-0T in the booster, and it went way up before staging. I'm glad I had only a 1/2A3-4T in the sustainer.

For many fliers at that time, booster selection was pretty sparse, so folks would often be using B6-0's or C6-0's in the boosters. For many 2-stage rockets that were neither heavy nor draggy, fliers would be lucky to get back half of it much less the entire rocket.

Doug...would love to come into possession of some 1/2A boosters...

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Old 04-12-2016, 09:47 AM
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I buy what engines I don't have stockpiled from Wal-Mart clearance at Hobby Lobby, and they don't carry A8-0's, at least not around here. Unfortunate. B6-0 and C6-0 engines are readily available.
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We had a Taser Twin at the BEMRC launch this past Saturday. It was painted all black and turned in two flights in which both stages were recovered. Both were B6-0 to B6-6. The fins on the booster were a little wavy, which certainly cost it some altitude during during the first stage burn....but it was easily the highest flying model of the day. Solid black with a bright orange streamer was relatively easy to track in the sky....with the emphasis on "relatively" .
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Old 04-13-2016, 12:57 AM
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Too bad Estes discontinued the B4-6 and kept the B6-6.
The thrust profile and larger diameter nozzle makes for a much better and easier ignited upper-stage motor.
Some of the engines Estes discontinued make no sense at all.
Examples:
B4-6 instead of B6-6 ( it makes no sense to me to have both B6 and B4 motors in the same delay ); the only B6 motor that still should exist is the B6-4; The B4-2 is better than the B6-2 and the B4-6 is better than the B6-6.

C5-3 instead of the C6-3; there is nothing the C6-3 does that the C5-3 does not do better.

The entire B8 line; it was a decent substitute for the B14 and can be made with a pintle die instead of drilling the core as the B14 had to; The B8 is much better at getting draggy/heavy rockets moving than the B6; I'd just as soon like the entire B6 line replaced by the B8 in delays of 0, 2, 4, and 6 seconds; the nozzle diameter is the same as the B4 and just would need a pintle-die used when pressing the propellant. One can actually make their 'own' B8's/B14's out of B4's albeit against the NAR safety code.
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Doug...would love to come into possession of some 1/2A boosters...


I come into possession of them on occasion...along with 1/4A3 and 1/2A6 boosters too.
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I miss the B4-6 also, but mainly because I loved how it got the old Centuri Bandito into the air. The difference is small, but noticeable.

As an aside: Given that 13mm engines fit (barely) into empty 18mm casings, I'm often surprised that Estes doesn't make a separate delay-and-ejection module that you could push into a booster engine. It would fill a lot of niches.
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It could definitely simplify production if Estes only produced 'booster' engines, and separate 'delay/ejection' modules. Would definitely be better for customers as well.
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It could definitely simplify production if Estes only produced 'booster' engines, and separate 'delay/ejection' modules. Would definitely be better for customers as well.

It would be better for us. The average Walmart kid would screw it up.
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It could definitely simplify production if Estes only produced 'booster' engines, and separate 'delay/ejection' modules.
Who was the company that did that (anyone)? AVI? I've seen the motors, and might even have one somewhere.

In fact, as I recall, when I first met Carl at NARCON in 2002 in Austin, he and I discussed those. I always had the impression that, if Semroc got into the motor biz, he would be using that 2-part approach.

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