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Old 12-28-2017, 09:35 AM
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Not sure what would you offer. I can dig it out and take a picture. I cloned a Citation Patriot a few years ago and used one. I originally had 2 that I got off eBay. I will probably buy one of the new released kits. Never have flown the cloned kit just built it as a child hood memory and displayed it on my dresser. The decals if done right in the new kit will be worth the price of the kit I. I think the decal reproductions were in the 20.00 range.
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Old 12-28-2017, 03:04 PM
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The bagged version of the Patriot from Estes never had the two-piece nose cone, only the boxed one had that.
Both cones are correct.
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Old 12-28-2017, 03:11 PM
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The bagged version of the Patriot from Estes never had the two-piece nose cone, only the boxed one had that.
Both cones are correct.


To my knowledge the bagged version never shipped with a black blow molded nosecone though. I've been an owner for decades, and for years now, I've been watching ebay each time one came up for sale. I have yet to see that appear.

Another difference in the kits: The original Citation Patriot's decals also had longer red bars than the bagged version. The bags were narrower than the box, and the change was made for that reason.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:37 PM
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I believe my clone is based the shorter bagged version decals. You wouldn't have measurements on the two would you?
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Old 12-28-2017, 05:01 PM
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I believe my clone is based the shorter bagged version decals. You wouldn't have measurements on the two would you?


Citation Patriot (KC-3) 2 3/4" for the length of the red bars... (I've a really good scan of these decals)

Patriot (0652) I've got it closer to 2 7/16" (but my I'm not able to access my original at this time for a better measurement).

Also, it looks like another difference is the Citation Patriot's decals had white bands between the red bars (and the red and blue bands on the fins) whereas the Patriot (0652) appears to have used clear film in those areas (likely done to save ink). I can't confirm this without having a really good scan of the original 0652's decals.

Here's what I've got right now...
Citation Patriot (KC-3) decals:


Patriot (0652) decals:
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:09 PM
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Sure do wish Estes would sell those decal sheets by themselves... They were used in at least two of the MRN DOM models (Stratos and Nimbus)...
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:58 PM
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I see that Estes is supposed to bring back the Citation Patriot early next year (yay!) But looking at the image of it on the Estes website the PNC looks too pointy. Maybe not.


They’ve been using these weird forced perspective renderings on all their new packaging. Centuri used to do that back in the day, but not to this exaggerated degree!
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