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First, Mesothelioma comes from inhaled Asbestos, not from skin contact. Second, the threshold for exposure likely varies widely, from person to person. Third, the latency period can be influenced by other factors. Research shows that the latency period is shortened as the amount of exposure increases ( Several 1st responders to 9/11, exposed to clouds of Asbestos-laden air, were dead within 5 years ). Also, the latency period lengthens for people that are exposed at younger ages. Those exposed later in life experience shorter latency periods. These two articles address this. https://www.asbestos.com/mesothelioma/latency-period/ https://mesothelioma.net/mesothelioma-latency-period/ Dave F. |
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Enjoy, I'm not here to argue over that which cannot be undone.
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The purpose of the post was not to argue anything. Rather, it was to intended inform Rocketeers of a potential health threat that they may have been exposed to or are currently exposing themselves to. Given the extended latency period, exposure could have even occurred in the 1970's +/-, over 40 years ago . . . Rocketeers experiencing respiratory problems should be aware that this is a possible cause ! Dave F. |
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Once again, AsBESTos can't be all bad. It serves it's purpose. Secondary issues are... secondary.
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We never used baby powder on our chutes back in the day.
We just did asbestos we could.
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EXACTLY... WTF difference does it make?? Unless of course you're just looking for a sh!t-ton of money because you "might" have been exposed to it at some point... Cancer is a funny thing... it flattens out little kids, old people, and everybody in between. It gets people who've never had to work a day in their life on a job that "gets their hands dirty" and it gets people who never smoked a day in their life or never drank or did dope or who were vegetarians and ran 5 miles a day every day... there's really little/no rhyme or reason to it. Some things just make it "more likely" like massive radiation doses, exposure to certain chemicals or compounds, and taking certain things into your body (like smoking) or eating, drinking, breathing, or absorbing certain things... BUT, exposure to those things doesn't *guarantee* you'll get cancer, it just makes it more *STATISTICALLY* likely. I mean, my great aunt Florence dipped snuff from the time she was 9 years old; she kept an old diet Dr. Pepper spit can under her ironing board the entire time I was growing up. She never got sick and lived to the ripe old age of 93... Not saying it was a good thing, but then some big strong young guys start dipping snuff in high school and die of mouth cancer in their 20's... IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL and how their body reacts to it... Yet now *everything* causes cancer... eating french fries causes cancer; spraying Roundup on your driveway weeds causes cancer, eating overcooked meat causes cancer, h3ll, EVERYTHING in the State of friggin' California causes cancer... And yeah, for SOME PEOPLE that is true; chemical compounds created by frying potatoes into french fries caused cancer... Basically, if you're gonna get it, you're gonna get it... If you're not, you won't. I'm not saying to go jump head first into a bin full of asbestos dust or start doing shots of Roundup or something stupid like that; what I'm saying is, *everybody* is exposed to ALL SORTS of carcinogenic compounds EVERY SINGLE DAY... to some degree or other. Some people will never get sick. For some, just a stray molecule of something inhaled or absorbed through the skin or eaten or drank will get to just the wrong cell in their body, do just the wrong thing, and bam they get cancer and die. You can't run on fear... What can you do about it NOW, *IF* you breathed in some talcum powder dust that was laced with asbestos TWENTY YEARS AGO?? All this crap is just a means of making money for slick willy lawyers... (at EVERYONE ELSE'S EXPENSE!) Later! OL J R
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"At this point, what difference does it make ?". . . Now, WHERE have I heard THAT before ? NO ONE should "run on fear" . . . RATHER, they should "run on knowledge" ! Frankly, I would rather have prior knowledge of a possible threat, than to be blissfully ignorant of a potential danger. That foreknowledge would allow me to take precautions to either minimize or eliminate exposure. Even if there is no "present threat" ( unconfirmed ), there are many people who come back to Rocketry, later in life. It is VERY possible that they might, indeed, have baby powder containing Absestos in an old "Range Box" that has been sitting unused for 20-40 years. They might even want to "PASS ALONG" that Range Box to their CHILD or GRANDCHILD . . . They NEED to KNOW about the possible danger . . . If you disagree, fine . . . The risk you take is YOUR choice and YOU "own" the consequences for those choices ! Dave F. Last edited by Ez2cDave : 12-18-2018 at 06:02 PM. |
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I love it. But then again, I torture my grandkids with stuff like this at every opportunity.
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