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Old 08-21-2007, 07:59 PM
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Wow. I didn't know Mike was back at Estes again.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:24 PM
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Isn't the correct set of decals available from Tango Papa Decals? Just wondering, even
though I don't have the Der Red Max model myself (either the OOP nor new ones).


Sure they are, I have built several DRM clones from Tango Papa's decals. They work fine. Point is, a guy should not have to do that. That's the point of buying the kit in the first place.


Building clones almost always involves multiple vendors, paying mulitiple shipping costs, buying Mean Machine kits just for the nose cone, etc. The cost adds up quick. I've never been able to build a DRM clone for the same cost or cheaper than what this re-issued kit costs.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:01 PM
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... so do not expect a change before sometime in 2008.
Estes has some very patient customers! I don't think many of ours would wait for that long for us to fix a problem.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:12 PM
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I have both sets of decals from Papa Tango and Excel. They are great decals except for one area. The white lets the red show through and almost has a pinkish hue. I have an Alps printer myself and there is nothing you can do about this. But other than that they are great decals. One thing you could do is print the wrap around decal on white decal paper and this would help. With my old Der Red Max decals they are a lot thicker and easier to work with than the new ones. Like I said I am currently working on the new Interceptor and will give a report on those decals.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:27 PM
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Wow. I didn't know Mike was back at Estes again.


Is that a good sign?
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:31 PM
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Estes has some very patient customers! I don't think many of ours would wait for that long for us to fix a problem.


Carl, I agree with you, I think most of us are dedicated to the "Estes" name of the 70's and 80's.......For myself I getting fed up with the Estes of today....I will admit that I have had great success with Christine at Estes. I like your company great products......
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:51 PM
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Estes has some very patient customers! I don't think many of ours would wait for that long for us to fix a problem.


Indeed! We've waited 20+ years for this kit to come back!
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:53 PM
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Is that a good sign?

I'm not sure to tell you the truth. I get the impression there's scary stuff going on over there.
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Just wondering what RD and RP think of all this?
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:11 PM
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Estes has some very patient customers! I don't think many of ours would wait for that long for us to fix a problem.


If you were having kits made in China they would have to.

Maybe they found out the white Chinese decals are lead based.

I don't want any of you guys chewing on your Der Red Max kits!
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