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Old 08-20-2008, 08:49 PM
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What did you fly on top? I've been thinking of some kind of appropriate payload section and/or nose cone for it.

As an aside, the fins on that thing (especially the upper stage) are huge! They go halfway up the body tube.

Perfectly designed to fly a roll of dimes!!

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Old 08-25-2008, 04:03 PM
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Man when the mind goes it is a terrible thing.
Looking at this thread I find a few questions.
In my 1973 Estes catalog I see that the Astron Delta was the carrier for the Camroc.
I still have the plans, the clear payload & nosecone (I also have the balsa transition which is not shown in the pic), and the Camroc camera minus the film cartridge/canister along with the package card that shows a completely different carrier which is a single stage like this:


I also have this picture of my Camroc on top of a rocket I don't recognize. I can't find it in any of the catalogs I have so I'm thinking that I might have scratch built it????
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Can anybody help with unfogging my brain.


Also does anybody know where I can get a film canister empty or full (doesn't matter)?
That is the only piece I'm missing to make a non-working Camroc and build the carrier to go with it.
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:24 PM
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The fins and nozzle on that rocket look an awful lot like the booster stage of the Astron Shrike. Could it have been cobbled together from one, with a longer BT?

I remember the Camroc Carrier from catalogs; I believe it replaced the Delta in the early 70s?

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Old 08-25-2008, 07:42 PM
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How about that!
I think you nailed it, I had a Shrike.
I think what I did was take the booster from the "Shrike", when I lost the upper stage to the rocket eating trees(one of my favorite 2-stage rockets BTW)
I added a length of BT with a coupler and used it to carry my Camroc for what reason I don't recall now. I do remember that it flew and recovered very nicely in a city park in Chicago with a very small open area to recover in. I did get some nice aerial pictures of the surrounding neighborhood which I still have.
I only have 2 old catalogs. 1973 shows the Astron Delta with the Camroc. The 1979 catalog did not have the Camroc listed in any form so it must have been OOP by then.

Sure wish I could find the film canister part of the Camroc so I can rebuild it.
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The fins and nozzle on that rocket look an awful lot like the booster stage of the Astron Shrike. Could it have been cobbled together from one, with a longer BT?

I remember the Camroc Carrier from catalogs; I believe it replaced the Delta in the early 70s?

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Old 08-25-2008, 08:07 PM
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Happy to be of assistance! I cloned a Shrike last year so I recognized the fins. It's a beautiful design.

Found the Camroc Carrier in the 1974 catalog listed as new:

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rock...74/74est50.html

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Old 08-26-2008, 09:47 AM
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I thought the Camroc was discontinued around 1971?! I was going to get one for Christmas
that year until the Cineroc appeared in the catalog. My parents got me the Cineroc/Omega
instead (one of the best Christmas present I've ever gotten, to this very day!).....
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:56 AM
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The Camroc was around for many years along with the Cineroc.
The last year for both the Camroc and Cineroc to be catalogued was 1975.
The Camroc Carrier rocket was available for one more year in the catalog, 1976.
The Omega (Cineroc launch vehicle) was available in the 1980 catalogue but disappeared in 1981.
I do know that Cinerocs and parts were available for quite a few years after they left the catalogue.
I don't know if the same held true for the Camroc or Camroc Carrier or Omega rockets.
I do know that "back in the day" some kits were available after they were dropped from the catalogue due to the fact that I called Estes long ago to get an Avenger a couple of years after it left the catalogue.
Still have not built that thing either !
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:04 PM
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I know this much: in 1976, I finally saved enough allowance for a Camroc, and sent it in to ESTES.
I received a reply that the CAMROC was no longer available....


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Old 08-26-2008, 02:23 PM
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You sell the Camroc decals don't you Phred?
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:47 PM
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He definitely does, because I have a set of them I bought from him in an envelope in my "rocket room".
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