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None will work. | 1 | 8.33% | |
Only the Saturn V will work. | 0 | 0% | |
Only the space shuttle will work. | 1 | 8.33% | |
Both will work. | 10 | 83.33% | |
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MicroMaxx 3 staged Saturn V
I an thinking of making an peanut scale sized Saturn V. However, there is a catch to it. I will make it multstaged. First, I can't fly it until Estes releases A10-0's. I'm going to stage an A10 to an A10 to an A10 to a MMX. I may make a slightly larger one as well with B6-0 to A10-0 to MMX. Also, do you think a little B/G space shuttle could be made?
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You could make a B/G Shuttle, but you'll have to rig an elevator system similar to the Estes Space Plane
Also, how do you plan to stabilize the upper stages of the Saturn V? |
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I would use clear polycarbonate fins. I have plenty at home.
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The only problem with that is that you'll end up having to design the rocket from the upper stage down, and with each successive stage, the fin area is going to be vastly increased to compensate for the forward fins. I suppose you could get away with clear fins, since you wouldn't be able to notice how big they are quite so easily. Another option to investigate would be rubber or tiny spring-actuated pop-out fins that stow inside the lower stages until separation occurs; however, this can be difficult to accomplish at such a small scale (it is do-able, though). Just to give an idea of the fin areas involved, here's a quick RockSim file of a basic peanut-sized (1/369th scale) Saturn V design with fins at each stage. From your original description, it uses A10's in each of the stages, and as it stands, only has the outer components and motor mounts put in it for simulating most of the weight (so none of the internal parts have been factored in here). I tried to get as close to a 1.0 caliber static margin as possible with each stage (also, I used 0.01" thick polycarbonate for the fins, due to how dense the stuff is; if they get much thicker, the fins will need to be bigger to compensate).
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Well, Thomas said he was going to us MMX motors in the top stage, so those fins could be made smaller. Also, he could add spin stabilization which would allow him to make all the fins smaller. And, if I remember right, the rocket should spin faster each time it stages due to mass loss and the remaining mass being closer to the center, which would allow the fins upper two stages to be even smaller.
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Ok, sorry. The owner's son was an active member of our Section a while back (Challenger 498) and came to our club launches often. He would have a huge stock of Estes engines with him and I remember they had a good supply of the A10-0T's. Since that time I'd been posting in the various forums for those looking for those booster engines where they could get them, so I guess they must have sold them all (didn't get any commissions, though ).
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