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Old 06-08-2010, 10:18 AM
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Dave told me (and several other folks) that he had to redo most of the molds. and asked for input on the instructions ect. And he will incorperate the input on the 2nd run.
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Bob,

You and others do realize that when Dave makes the 2nd run, both versions will become COLLECTOR'S kits and therefore people might do the following:

Buy an original SHR kit. Then buy 2 of the Dave produced kits; one to collect along side the SHR kit and one to build fly...

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Old 06-08-2010, 10:32 AM
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I posted a few of mine here ...

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showt...&highlight=ljii

Attached are a couple more.

FWIW, the corrugated wrap provided with this kit is about an inch short of true scale ... I had to cut down the upper part of the LJII airframe an inch to keep the proportions correct. Naturally, I didn't figure this out until after I had the wrap installed and stood around thinking "that just doesn't look right." I should have measured it before putting it on, of course -- another lesson learned. But I'm not sure what I would have done about it other than scratch-build the corrugations, and having done the fins, tower, CM, and decals with non-kit parts I'm pretty close to a scratch-build already. Some of that is due to my own changes (as I note in the aforementioned thread I opted to model the A-001 round instead of the QTV) but Jonathan is correct: this is really a semi-scale "fly for fun" kit.

3602s ... LJII sporting a fresh coat of polished aluminum Alclad
2920s ... The LES attached to the CM
2921s ... Applying the first of the decals



Tim,

These are VERY nice and I hope mine will look even close to what you have done. Yes on the dimensions... they are a bit off. I am using Alway's rockets of the World (1st ed.) and Beech-Gassoway drawings. The Corrigation does need cuting and so does the airframe tube, but you have to cut the tube anyway to make the parts needed for the cone.

Did you go solid balsa/wood on the fins or just use the styrene? I am going basswood ... more on that later

Jonathan


P.s. Tim, I learned the hardway to NEVER trust the manufacture's dimensions when building scale! They have to cut corners due to costs and stability.

OH someone asked if my fins on my now crashed Saturn 1b (Cover of Sport Rocketry Nov/Dev 2008) were scale ... YES! Just took a lot of buckshot and clay in the nose cone! There I took a Semroc Sat 1b and cut tubes and engine skirts to match the true scale.

The Apogee is better and right on ... just $200 is steep, but very worth it! I have one and I don't think I will ever build it ... just too valuable a kit. A $50.00 Semroc 'fixer upper' is the way to go!
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:38 AM
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Here's an "almost complete" shot of mine. Decals need some Solvaset to help them comply a little better, then clear coat. The finish isn't as nice as I would have liked, but at this point I'm not inclined to do it over. The upside is, I won't mind flying it.



Thread,

See SHR's rockets are not bad kits at all... even if you build them to the instructions!

Nice looking Little Joe II A-001!!!


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Old 06-08-2010, 10:45 AM
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yes Ill bet he is going bald. I ended getting decals from gordy , he worked with me to make a set , including the plaques and some super rare stencil only seen in one photo( dave should just get them from him) for a whopping 7 bucks.

Gordy even compensated for the corrugation on the font so it turns out correct. and with a few bonuses you can do any of the LJ's with his set



Jam,

I want to buy this set ... was this a special order or does he have them available for order?

Gordon?

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Old 06-08-2010, 10:57 AM
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Jam,

I want to buy this set ... was this a special order or does he have them available for order?

Gordon?

Jonathan



It was a special order. I was going to put it on my site but I wanted to talk to Dave at Red Arrow first


Just PM or email me and we can set you up with some.
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[QUOTE=Cohetero-negro]Bob,

You and others do realize that when Dave makes the 2nd run, both versions will become COLLECTOR'S kits and therefore people might do the following:

Buy an original SHR kit. Then buy 2 of the Dave produced kits; one to collect along side the SHR kit and one to build fly...

Jonathan[/QUOTE
That would make Dave happy.
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[QUOTE=Cohetero-negro]Bob,

You and others do realize that when Dave makes the 2nd run, both versions will become COLLECTOR'S kits and therefore people might do the following:

Buy an original SHR kit. Then buy 2 of the Dave produced kits; one to collect along side the SHR kit and one to build fly...

Jonathan[/QUOTE
That would make Dave happy.
Mr. Bob
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Hey Dave and Gordy.

Which ever of you release a Little Joe II kit first, I WIL buy two! Been waiting 2 years for the Sandman (Gordy) re-release, and still waiting!

Jonathan

How about a 7.5" diameter LJ II??!??
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...How about a 7.5" diameter LJ II??!??



If it is a true-scale, I'm in!!!

It would be the closest thing to flying a spool that I would ever do.

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Hey Dave and Gordy.

Which ever of you release a Little Joe II kit first, I WIL buy two! Been waiting 2 years for the Sandman (Gordy) re-release, and still waiting!

Jonathan

How about a 7.5" diameter LJ II??!??


It's on my list but since I purchased Excelsior my list of things got a whole lot longer!
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Thanks for the kind words, all ...

Jammer, mine weighs 2 pounds 10-5/8 ounces without clear coat or a recovery system. I'm going to rig two chutes, one for the airframe and a second with a bridle to bring the tower down horizontally. Another first for me there, and I'm open to suggestions. And I'll echo what others have said about the decals. I made my own using a cleaned up version of the lettering in George Gassaway's drawings for the "United States" on the airframe.

I'm tempted to do another at 1:20 scale, which would put it a little over 7-1/2 inches. If someone wants to do a bulk buy of .060 x .125 Evergreen strip, I'm in.
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