Ye Olde Rocket Forum

Go Back   Ye Olde Rocket Forum > The Golden Age of Model Rocketry > Kit Collecting
User Name
Password
Auctions Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Search Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-28-2011, 06:29 PM
Dannycolossus Dannycolossus is offline
focused procrastinator
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Shoals, NC
Posts: 241
Default return of the "glory days"?

for the past few years, the big dogs (estes, quest, etc) have had either too gimicky (pop-fly)
or just your basic 3fnc, nothing really like the stuff from the 80's, early 90's, and ceartainly even the basic 3fnc now are less than the most basic ones offered in the 70's. but lately, especialy with estes, I've noticed an overall improvement in not just the quality of the kits, but an improvement in the idea as well. bringing back some of the classics, as well as some new ones which i see as future classics, such as the epm-010 i was working on this morning. a couple years ago, the "level 2" kits had plastic fin cans, peel and stick decals, and pre colored parts. now, most level 1 kits have water slide decals. there are even some composite motors and higher skill level kits on the que for release. I'm stoked about how the kit quality is turning out lately, how about all of you?
__________________
you know those cop shows where they talk about a town and say "Theres alot of known gun owners in this town", why do they act like its a bad thing?
Long live the Mars Snooper!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-28-2011, 07:02 PM
Jerry Irvine's Avatar
Jerry Irvine Jerry Irvine is offline
Freeform rocketry advocate.
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Claremont, CA "The intellectual capitol of the world."-WSJ
Posts: 3,413
Default

The tastes of consumers have changed and Estes is conforming to sales trends. Accept that. The main thing that has happened is a strong polarization of rocketry to a model where HPR and thus LMR is linked to clubs by hard regulations that kill growth hard. The Consumer level has no such self-imposed throttling or regulations and folks are free to purchase low end model rockets nationwide and in many other countries with no permits or hassles.

Guess who helps write those regulations? Estes and Quest.

Jerry
__________________
Exemptions not regulations. Please support DOT treating slow burning solids as not subject to HMR. 2015 NAR President declines!
U.S. Rockets instaship. http://bit.ly/1aca7mA Please buy some rockets.
The O administration believed in tax, spend, borrow, fine, mandate, monologue. D voters will soon be very happy with the election outcome!
Model rocketry is as safe as safe can be defined in human existence. Bow and pray: GH Stine, Orville, Vern, Lee, Lonnie, Carl, etc. No, really.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-28-2011, 08:02 PM
Dannycolossus Dannycolossus is offline
focused procrastinator
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Shoals, NC
Posts: 241
Default

i was speaking more of the kit quality, rather than regulations and red tape.
__________________
you know those cop shows where they talk about a town and say "Theres alot of known gun owners in this town", why do they act like its a bad thing?
Long live the Mars Snooper!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-28-2011, 08:12 PM
Raygun's Avatar
Raygun Raygun is offline
Star Voyager
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 227
Default

Hey I thought these are the glory days!
Now I have money to buys stuff and a lot more different stuff to go around.
__________________
Patriot
464 CMASS
MMMSClub.org
NAR #92766
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-28-2011, 08:20 PM
LeeR's Avatar
LeeR LeeR is offline
Retired with Way Too Many Kits
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,665
Default

I too like what I see, and for the first time in practically decades, I am actually buying new Estes kits, rather than mostly scratch-building (or buying old classics on eBay).

I like the return of balsa nose cones, although I do wonder what is going on with the Super Alpha, having a plastic nose cone, while the package says it has a balsa one?

Overall, I think Estes is doing a lot more exciting things than most of us could have ever imagined.

I still continue to add to my collection of Semroc kits, but it is really good to have Estes back in the game again.
__________________
Lee Reep
NAR 55948, L2

Projects: Mars Snooper, Super Sky Hook
In the Paint/Detailing shop: Estes Saturn 1B
Completed!: Red Nova, STM-Bandit, Der Saturn Max
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-28-2011, 08:32 PM
gpoehlein's Avatar
gpoehlein gpoehlein is offline
Paper Rocketeer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Evansville, Indiana
Posts: 1,180
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeR
I too like what I see, and for the first time in practically decades, I am actually buying new Estes kits, rather than mostly scratch-building (or buying old classics on eBay).

I like the return of balsa nose cones, although I do wonder what is going on with the Super Alpha, having a plastic nose cone, while the package says it has a balsa one?

Overall, I think Estes is doing a lot more exciting things than most of us could have ever imagined.

I still continue to add to my collection of Semroc kits, but it is really good to have Estes back in the game again.


My understanding is that, mostly due to the high price of balsa, Estes is going back to plastic nose cones whenever they can. Personally, I like the plastic nose cones - they are easy to finish and they stand up to punishment better than balsa. Far as I'm concerned - it's all good!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-28-2011, 08:35 PM
Raygun's Avatar
Raygun Raygun is offline
Star Voyager
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 227
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gpoehlein
My understanding is that, mostly due to the high price of balsa, Estes is going back to plastic nose cones whenever they can. Personally, I like the plastic nose cones - they are easy to finish and they stand up to punishment better than balsa. Far as I'm concerned - it's all good!


I can respect that. Human joints do wear out!
__________________
Patriot
464 CMASS
MMMSClub.org
NAR #92766
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-28-2011, 09:11 PM
Dannycolossus Dannycolossus is offline
focused procrastinator
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Shoals, NC
Posts: 241
Default

I like balsa for some "nostalgic" kits, but plastic is hands down easier to finish. no sealer, and with fins, you can fake no sealer, but for a nose cone, not so much. but i still like to use balsa tube adapters, as they seem to hold up better.
__________________
you know those cop shows where they talk about a town and say "Theres alot of known gun owners in this town", why do they act like its a bad thing?
Long live the Mars Snooper!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-28-2011, 09:11 PM
gpoehlein's Avatar
gpoehlein gpoehlein is offline
Paper Rocketeer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Evansville, Indiana
Posts: 1,180
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raygun
I can respect that. Human joints do wear out!


Argh - don't remind me - my left shoulder is gone and I'm gonna have to have a joint replacement later this fall - and I'm only 54!!!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-28-2011, 09:39 PM
Bill's Avatar
Bill Bill is offline
I do not like Facebook
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: North Tejas
Posts: 2,474
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gpoehlein
My understanding is that, mostly due to the high price of balsa, Estes is going back to plastic nose cones whenever they can. Personally, I like the plastic nose cones - they are easy to finish and they stand up to punishment better than balsa. Far as I'm concerned - it's all good!



Some plastic cones are easier to finish. Some, with a bad mold seam, are a pain. Balsa cones can be sanded to a different shape; there is less flexibility with plastic ones. So my answer is "it depends."


Bill
__________________
It is well past time to Drill, Baby, Drill!

If your June, July, August and September was like this, you might just hate summer too...

Please unload your question before you ask it unless you have a concealed harry permit.

: countdown begin cr dup . 1- ?dup 0= until cr ." Launch!" cr ;

Give a man a rocket and he will fly for a day; teach him to build and he will spend the rest of his days sanding...
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:41 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe 1998-2018