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Phred
09-23-2008, 09:35 AM
Hi gang,

I was just wondering: does anyone know what is the rocket that these two super-cool dudes are holding?

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/nostalgia/78est056.html


Was it a DOM winner? Are there plans somwhere? It looks like a neato keen slow launch 24mm monster to me!

Thanks in advance,

Phred

sandman
09-23-2008, 10:02 AM
That looks~~~~~something like an old Delta E.

Sorta like a Delta E

I have an affection for that rocket 'cause the red stripes are red duct take covering the seams.

Race58
09-23-2008, 10:57 AM
How about this?
http://space.skyrocket.de/index_frame.htm?http://www.skyrocket.de/space/doc_lau/thor_agena.htm
Specifically the Thor-Agena D (lower right)

ghrocketman
09-23-2008, 11:30 AM
Agree that it looks like a Thor Agena-D but do not recall it ever being a DOM entry or winner.
I don't think any of the DOM's I have seen look ANYTHING like that one.
The guy on the right looks like a very young Wayne Gretzky with a RIDICULOUS hair-don't !

Phred
09-23-2008, 12:28 PM
Or Jeff Spicoli...

"Dude, its my rocket !!"

Ph

jetlag
09-23-2008, 12:58 PM
Hi gang,

I was just wondering: does anyone know what is the rocket that these two super-cool dudes are holding?

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/nostalgia/78est056.html


Was it a DOM winner? Are there plans somwhere? It looks like a neato keen slow launch 24mm monster to me!

Thanks in advance,

Phred

What about that neat one to our left of those guys? What is that? Good lookin, it is!
Perhaps an early Shrox rendition of an SR-71 update?
Allen

DeanHFox
09-24-2008, 09:55 PM
What about that neat one to our left of those guys? What is that? Good lookin, it is!
Perhaps an early Shrox rendition of an SR-71 update?
AllenThat's a DOM winner, the "Nimbus"...see http://www.dars.org/jimz/eirp_81.htm

Phred
09-25-2008, 07:44 AM
OK, so using Jim Z's website, I was able to ID following DOM winners in this picture: Nimbus, Argus II, Top Secret, Stratos, Equinox, Intruder, Tartar.

These models are all DOM plan #s 77-84. Jim Z's site has a gap between DOM plan #84 and 100. I wonder if the the unfinished model is in the missing batch?

Again, as per Jim Z, the above models appear in MRN #s V13/1 through V15/1. The MRN #s then have a gap until V38 with plan #128. (Plan 100 does not have an MRN issue listed).

Does anyone have any MRN issued from V15, 16, or 17? Did they even exist?

I can find that Vol 21 was 1981... so V15/16/17 must have been late 1970s.

Any help would be appreciated.

Phred

DeanHFox
09-26-2008, 09:45 PM
Phred, the last Vol 15 I have is #1 --- Fall/Winter 1975.

The next I have is Vol 17, #3 (June 1977)...It has a plan called the "Egg-Brute Renegade" by Joe Dwyer of Yuba City, CA.

After that, I have Vol 19 #1 (Winter 1979)...It has a plan called the "Eclipse" by Scott Annis of Culver City, CA.

The next after that is Vol 20 #1 (Winter 1980)...It has a plan called the "Aggressor" by Ken Davis of Cherry Hill, NJ.

The interesting thing about the Vol 17, 19, & 20 issues that I have is that they are approximately half the size of the late 60's and early 70's issues. They remind me almost of "pamphlets" or "Readers Digest"-sized publications.

One of these days, we really need to get a comprehensive MRN archive somewhere. :)

Hope this helps!

Phred
09-27-2008, 07:22 PM
Thanks Dean.

Are these plans themslves numbered at all?

Phred

DeanHFox
09-28-2008, 07:25 PM
Thanks Dean.

Are these plans themslves numbered at all?

PhredPhred, if they were, I couldn't find them on the pages. :(

Dannycolossus
08-20-2009, 02:40 PM
it looks almost like a thor agena and an ares v mixed together

Dannycolossus
08-20-2009, 02:59 PM
i just did some quick measurements and found out that the tube specs are as follows:
20 inch bt80
8 inch bt60
3x 5inch bt20
the main nose cone appears to be the one used in the semroc hydra vii.

i can feel a parts order to semroc coming on.....

this thing is just begging to be clustered!!!!

Bluegrass Rocket
08-20-2009, 03:47 PM
I'm thinking that the main body is BT-70 as there was no BT-80 listed in the body tube section of that catalog. I don't think BT-80 was yet then available.

stantonjtroy
08-20-2009, 07:10 PM
Just a historical note, the Thor evolved (very little) into the Delta. FWIW

Troy

Dannycolossus
08-20-2009, 07:25 PM
well, on the same page is an add for a nose cone fitting the 101 tube, so the 80 probably was around. most of the maxi brutes had that type of tube.
anyway, the size of the tube in comparison to the hand of the person holding it is moore like a bt-80 than a bt-70

barone
08-20-2009, 08:34 PM
Well, assuming (yeah, I know.... :o ) that the picture is representative of what can be built using the Designer's Special, then the largest tube has to be a BT-60 since that is the largest tube shown on the parts list for the Designer's Special...... :eek:

tbzep
08-21-2009, 07:23 AM
well, on the same page is an add for a nose cone fitting the 101 tube, so the 80 probably was around. most of the maxi brutes had that type of tube.
anyway, the size of the tube in comparison to the hand of the person holding it is moore like a bt-80 than a bt-70

The BT-80 was in the Saturn V kit for several years before it became available to purchase separately. However, it does look like a BT-80 when compared to the size of the kids.

jeffyjeep
08-21-2009, 07:34 AM
Agree that it looks like a Thor Agena-D but do not recall it ever being a DOM entry or winner.
I don't think any of the DOM's I have seen look ANYTHING like that one.
The guy on the right looks like a very young Wayne Gretzky with a RIDICULOUS hair-don't !
Actually, a cross between Wayne Gretzky and Sean Penn (if Sean was a chick).

Dannycolossus
08-23-2009, 08:21 PM
Well, assuming (yeah, I know.... :o ) that the picture is representative of what can be built using the Designer's Special, then the largest tube has to be a BT-60 since that is the largest tube shown on the parts list for the Designer's Special...... :eek:

yeah, you know how those catalog pictures are, they always make what you see look great, and all you get is about 40% of whats shown. i think ill clone this thing with iether a central d motor or 3 b6's in the three strap on boosters. i'll have to duct the ejection though.....

Mark II
08-24-2009, 12:57 AM
The BT-80 was in the Saturn V kit for several years before it became available to purchase separately. However, it does look like a BT-80 when compared to the size of the kids.
BT-80KD started showing up in the Estes catalogs in 1984.

MarkII

Dannycolossus
09-02-2009, 03:59 PM
i was just surfing around and saw that this one looked an awful lot like the japanese n1 rocket (not the same as the russian one). anyway, i just thought i'd let you all in on this