Centuri Egg Crate Decals

[Gus]

I am restoring an original Centuri Egg Crate I picked up in an auction.

I had Sandman bring me a set of the decals and what he brought is what's shown in the first picture below.

But the rocket I am restoring had small decals on the fins as shown in the second photo which were not in Excelsior's original file.

Does anyone have a copy of the original decal set? There are no decals for this kit viewable online.

I also noticed the available plans do not have the header card which I've scanned and uploaded below as well.

Scott, feel free to merge the header card and fin photo with the plans you have online.

Steve

[kurtschachner]

Any chance you could attach a high resolution (600 DPI) TIFF scan of that decal? I would be interested in redrawing it, and then you could get Excelsior to print them for you, if you don't have an Alps printer.

I am restoring an original Centuri Egg Crate I picked up in an auction.

I had Sandman bring me a set of the decals and what he brought is what's shown in the first picture below.

But the rocket I am restoring had small decals on the fins as shown in the second photo which were not in Excelsior's original file.

Does anyone have a copy of the original decal set? There are no decals for this kit viewable online.

I also noticed the available plans do not have the header card which I've scanned and uploaded below as well.

Scott, feel free to merge the header card and fin photo with the plans you have online.

Steve

[sandman]

Yep, those look like silver decals not white.

Anybody know for sure?

[Ltvscout]

Scott, feel free to merge the header card and fin photo with the plans you have online.
Thanks, Steve.

[Gus]

OK, I'm at the point of deciding what color to paint.

The top is easy, black with silver bands.

Header card (in 1st post above) is printed in Centuri Orange and makes the mid-body look orange.

Catalog pictures (below) make it look blue in the full size pic and white in the half-pic in the lower right corner.

Neither the header card nor catalog were full color pics. Each was a single color and of note is that the scale Tomahawk on the page facing the Egg Crate is also shown in shades of blue, black, and white.

The model I'm restoring was actually painted nothing like the pictures so I can't use it as a guide.

Any suggestions?

[Vanel]

Gus,

I painted mine to match the scheme on the back inside cover of the Centuri 71 catalog (look left of the Centurion).

My clone (http://gallery.me.com/cookewj#100006/100_2182&bgcolor=black)

[barone]

Looks yellow.....kinda like scrambled eggs........ :rolleyes:

[Gus]

Gus,

I painted mine to match the scheme on the back inside cover of the Centuri 71 catalog (look left of the Centurion).

My clone (http://gallery.me.com/cookewj#100006/100_2182&bgcolor=black)
Bill,

Thanks so much for the pic. Very interesting that the photo model looks different from the other two.

Nice build, by the way.

[Gus]

The lighting in the picture is not too good but here is a pic of my completed Egg Crate. I chose to go with the catalog colors of blue and white.

Decals by Excelsior. Sandman is making me a couple of the Egg decals I posted above and I will add those when I get them.

Again, if anyone has a copy of the original decal sheet I'd love to see it.

[Initiator001]

Your Egg Crate model looks great, Steve!

Will you fly it?

Bob

[Gus]

Your Egg Crate model looks great, Steve!

Will you fly it?

Bob
Absolutely, and it will be its first flight. The kid who originally put this one together put the engine hooks at the outside of each motor tube, then glued the motor mount in place (it was supposed to be removeable). So he couldn't put any motors in, LOL. turns out that was a good thing because he also glued the centering ring just ahead of the motor tubes in off center so the gaps between the motor tubes weren't filled. If he had been able to launch he would have lawn darted because all the ejection charge would have come out the back.

I found this rocket mixed in with a bunch of other stuff I got in an ebay auction . I don't usually go after rockets to restore but this one was so rare that I really wanted to bring it back to life.

To me, though, it won't be complete until it flies.

The only real question is do I launch an egg on the first flight? ;)

Steve

[Rocketcrab]

Absolutely, and it will be its first flight. The kid who originally put this one together put the engine hooks at the outside of each motor tube, then glued the motor mount in place (it was supposed to be removeable). So he couldn't put any motors in, LOL. turns out that was a good thing because he also glued the centering ring just ahead of the motor tubes in off center so the gaps between the motor tubes weren't filled. If he had been able to launch he would have lawn darted because all the ejection charge would have come out the back.

I found this rocket mixed in with a bunch of other stuff I got in an ebay auction . I don't usually go after rockets to restore but this one was so rare that I really wanted to bring it back to life.

To me, though, it won't be complete until it flies.

The only real question is do I launch an egg on the first flight? ;)

Steve

Well, whatever you decide to do, that is one nice looking rocket, congratulations! :cool:

[Gus]

Just wanted to post a much better picture. Really came out nice.

This photo also includes the Egg Crate fin decals Excelsior reproduced from the scans I made. These never appeared in any of the catalog photos so I am curious how many were included with the kit. The rocket I got also had two small "Centuri" orange logo decals placed on the payload compartment.

If anybody has an original built model, an original set of decals, or an original kit, please post any additional info you have.

Thanks,

Steve

[ghrocketman]

Steve,
Did you ever launch your Egg Crate ?
I still have not launched my Enerjet or Centuri Egg Crate clones.
GH

[Gus]

Look what I found!

Hi res PDF copies are on their way to Scott, Gordy, and Carl.

[Ltvscout]

Thanks, Steve! Did you get a complete kit?

[Gus]

Thanks, Steve! Did you get a complete kit?No, Scott, just a bunch of very interesting random parts. Oddly, the boxes contained an appropriate nosecone for the Egg Crate but it is ever so slightly different (a tidge more bulbous) than the cone on my restored Egg Crate (pic below). Box also had comlete printed fin sets from a number of Centuri rockets and some random Centuri decals but no instructions or tubes from most of the kits. Previous owner picked up the boxes from an elderly couple at a flea market. Why someone would have saved the fins sets and decals from kits but gotten rid of the instructions and tubes I can't really understand. I will sort through the fins and other decals to see what YORF is missing and I will send them along.

Steve

[Jerry Irvine]

Cool thread, nice build! The page 26 catalog photo most closely resembles the actual nose cone shape I remember. We used to sell those NC as spare parts at Claremont Rocket Society. We had a full inventory of all Centuri product. It was like heaven.

Jerry

[Earl]

No, Scott, just a bunch of very interesting random parts. Oddly, the boxes contained an appropriate nosecone for the Egg Crate but it is ever so slightly different (a tidge more bulbous) than the cone on my restored Egg Crate (pic below). Box also had comlete printed fin sets from a number of Centuri rockets and some random Centuri decals but no instructions or tubes from most of the kits. Previous owner picked up the boxes from an elderly couple at a flea market. Why someone would have saved the fins sets and decals from kits but gotten rid of the instructions and tubes I can't really understand. I will sort through the fins and other decals to see what YORF is missing and I will send them along.

Steve


I have some of those original Centuri nosecones and they are of the more rounded tip variety (bulbous) like your unpainted one above.


Earl

[duobob]

If possible can someone post the tube lengths. :D

[Carl@Semroc]

There are at least 3 known versions of the Centuri BC-200 nose cone, based on your photo. There are possibly more. Our BC-2025 is based on one that I had on loan years ago that matches most of the catalog drawings. The drawings are not quite tangent (secant ellipse?) Our BC-2026 is based on a nose cone that I also had on loan that I thought was another version of the BC-200, but could have been from somewhere else, possibly FSI since they also had the 2.04" tube.

Your top photo (Gus) is obviously different from any cone I have seen and is possibly a third version of the BC-200. There are many variations of nose cones from Estes over the years from reshaping the grinding stones due to wear, but fewer from Centuri. This could be because Estes had roughly 4-5 times the volume over the "balsa years" from about 1963 to 1971 and had to reshape the stones more often.

We are working on the Egg Crate again and will use the catalog version (our BC-2025) on the production model. We sat the design aside years ago when Estes decided to release it in their Classic Series, but I understand that they will not be doing it in the foreseeable future.

[Gus]

If possible can someone post the tube lengths. :D

Vanel graciously provided all the dimensions in this thread. (http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=691)

[Gus]

There are at least 3 known versions of the Centuri BC-200 nose cone...Carl,

Very interesting. I went back and read an earlier thread (http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=691) about the Egg Crate. Bill also had two different nosecones but in his case thought the more bulbous one was correct (the one to the left in the first picture below).

In my case, I know the black cone on the left in the second picture was actually part of a built original Egg Crate I purchased on ebay. The cone to the right (which looks a lot like the cone to the left in Bill's picture) I got in a box of old Centuri parts which also contained Egg Crate decals and fin sets.

So which is the "correct" cone shape, probably "both" is my best guess. :o

[Jerry Irvine]

So which is the "correct" cone shape, probably "both" is my best guess. :oI vote for the one before the stone wore down. ;)

[Earl]

Carl,

Very interesting. I went back and read an earlier thread (http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=691) about the Egg Crate. Bill also had two different nosecones but in his case thought the more bulbous one was correct (the one to the left in the first picture below).

In my case, I know the black cone on the left in the second picture was actually part of a built original Egg Crate I purchased on ebay. The cone to the right (which looks a lot like the cone to the left in Bill's picture) I got in a box of old Centuri parts which also contained Egg Crate decals and fin sets.

So which is the "correct" cone shape, probably "both" is my best guess. :o

Ok, we’ll take a bit of a step back into time here....

I was looking over some Egg Crate kits I have and Gus you are right: both versions of the two cones you picture above were used in the Centuri Egg Crate. My somewhat educated guess is that the more pointy cone was used in early Egg Crates (maybe summer through latter 1970) and the more rounded cone thereafter.

My clue on this is the shock cord attachment method used in the kit and the revision to that attatchment method during the run of the kit.

When originally introduced in the latter summer of 1970 (the 1971 catalog has an effective date of August, 1970), the kit used — and the instructions show — the ‘Mylar ring’ attachment method Centuri developed in the latter 60s for their kits. One sealed kit I have with the Mylar ring visible in the bag has the more pointy nose cone.

However, during approximately the late summer or early fall of 1970, Centuri introduced their self-adhesive backed, metallic foil/paper shock cord mount. One Egg Crate I have includes this latter attachment method (with a little instruction sheet printed addendum in the kit bag, which was included in many Centuri kits in the early 70s) that explained the new attachment method. THIS kit features the more rounded balsa cone and I suspect this kit was probably packaged in very late 1970 or sometime in the first half of 1971 before the Egg Crate was dropped before the 1972 catalog was being prepared, probably in the summer of 1971.

Earl

[Gus]

Earl,

Thanks for that great information!

Steve

[ghrocketman]

Hey Steve,
Has it flown yet ??

[Gus]

Hey Steve,
Has it flown yet ??
Oh for the love of Michael Jordan!!!

I only built it 14 years ago.

STOP RUSHING ME!!! ;)

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

Oh for the love of Michael Jordan!!!

I only built it 14 years ago.

STOP RUSHING ME!!! ;)
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

[ghrocketman]

:chuckle: :D :chuckle: :D :rolleyes: