Ye Olde Rocket Forum - A Roachwerks LTV Scout kit?

sandman

01-27-2006, 01:36 PM

Would there be any interest in an LTV Scout kit at 1/22.5th scale?

My prototype is completed but still waiting for decals from Excelcior (and a repaint :rolleyes: ).

Ltvscout

01-27-2006, 02:37 PM

Would there be any interest in an LTV Scout kit at 1/22.5th scale?

My prototype is completed but still waiting for decals from Excelcior (and a repaint :rolleyes: ).
I'd buy one. ;)

ghrocketman

01-27-2006, 02:59 PM

I'd be interested if the following were true about the kit:

1) No fragile plastic parts like the old Estes kit; the fin tabs on most examples that still exist are busted !; seems like this one has NO plastic. :D :D

2) Larger Scale than the Estes kit; I could not tell by the pics for sure, but it looks bigger; is this for 29mm or 24mm motors ? Or is it high power?
Would be a neat one to Cert L1 with if large enough to keep at 2000' or less on a H128.

3) Price must be reasonable or similar to pricing by Semroc; i.e. they are going to launch a K-29 Saturn 1B clone for $45.00; if this is a mod-roc (under H-power) I'd expect this to be considerably less than $45 (say around $30). If high power, and could Cert L1 with the kit, I'd be willing to pay around $50-$60.

sandman

01-27-2006, 03:33 PM

The model is 37.35" tall.

All of the parts are SEMROC/Estes size tube. Maximum diameter is 2.04"

Waterslide decals.

The fins are "wedge" shaped model aircraft trailing edge stock 1/4" thick at the base. The fin "tabs" on the tips of the fins are 100# cardstock.

It flys on an Estes E9-6 motor...pretty high too!

RockSim says 1,400' but I don't buy that claim...high but not 1,400'! :rolleyes:

Iguess a 29mm motor mount would fit but...HOLY SMOKES!!!

Sorry but I haven't figured out the cost yet.

Probably not going to be ready until the middle of summer.

sandman

01-27-2006, 04:16 PM

I just did some simulations using an "H" motor...ARE YOU NUTS!!!??? :eek:

6,100' on an H90

5,100 on an H268

4,058 on an H128

Heck, an F20 gives it 3,000'!!

This is a scale model!

Wouldn't you want it back?? ;)

OK, figure this thing is "about" the size of an Aerotech Baracuda. More or less.

barone

01-27-2006, 08:44 PM

Would there be any interest in an LTV Scout kit at 1/22.5th scale?

My prototype is completed but still waiting for decals from Excelcior (and a repaint :rolleyes: ).

I'd be interested.......Bought a Vostok...... :D

Don
NAR 53455

sandman

01-27-2006, 09:23 PM

Thanks for the interest guys.

I'm working out a bunch of details yet.

Just be patient.

Rocketaholic

01-28-2006, 05:42 AM

Heck Yeah, I will buy one. :)

I Love the LTV Scout, I Loved the Movie logans Run with Michael York and Farrah Fawcet.

You know the move/tv mini series called "Space" by James Michner? does anyone have a copy of that miniseries. Michael York was a main character in the mini series as well.

Rocketking

02-01-2006, 06:43 AM

I would be interested. You can email me at rocketking@hotmail.com

A rocket-eating tree got the original... Been wanting to build another ever since (twenty years...)

Good Luck with it!

sandman

02-17-2006, 03:16 PM

I got the decals last night from Phred at Excelcior and got them on today.

It does need some Dull Cote. It's awfully shiney!

Rocketking

02-18-2006, 10:47 AM

Based on my research & viewing of NASA archive photos, most launches seemed a semi-gloss at best...

sandman

02-18-2006, 10:50 AM

When the paint is fully cured I will mist it with some Testor's Dull Coat.

So...did anybody noticed the "OOPS" on the decals yet?

I'm fixing than. :D

Rocketking

02-18-2006, 12:43 PM

The Red band or the Payload ID? I AM interested in this bird. Let me know when you tie down a price.

sandman

02-18-2006, 01:31 PM

Nope not the red band which was not on all models.

I had the diagonal strip going in the wrong direction (clockwise instead of conterclockwise :confused: )

Whatever...I have since fixed it. :D

Rocketking

02-18-2006, 02:56 PM

I had noticed that, but thought, maybe that's the right way for the diagonal!

And I missed getting one of these... Shucks! Or other similar-sounding word!

;)

sandman

05-30-2006, 11:00 AM

I was asked to post a pic of the parts supplied in my kit.

Unfortunately the first run of kits is now spoken for.

I have ordered more parts and the second run will take some time.

ekafant

05-30-2006, 06:46 PM

In a word, yes I want one. I guess that was more than one word!

sandman

05-30-2006, 07:41 PM

PM me or send me an email if you're interested but I only have one or two left.

I announced them on Sunday...they went faster than I thought.

I will make more. :o

sandman

06-02-2006, 10:53 AM

Well, that first run went really fast!

All gone!

All of the parts for the second run of kits has been ordered so give 2 or 3 weeks for all the stuff to arrive and get boxed up.

Thanks everyone!

ekafant, yours is sitting here waiting. PM me your address and i'll send it out.

Ltvscout

06-02-2006, 10:23 PM

gilatrout

06-14-2006, 12:36 PM

I missed how much the kits are running for. If the price is right, I'm in.

Ltvscout

06-14-2006, 12:40 PM

I missed how much the kits are running for. If the price is right, I'm in.
The cost is $60 plus $5 shipping. He takes PayPal.

sandman

06-14-2006, 02:08 PM

Well, the kits are "almost" ready!

I just have to wait for Phred to get back from vacation and make me some decals.

That's all I'm waiting for.

sandman

06-24-2006, 09:52 AM

Phred from Excelcior was on vacation so I had to wait but the decals arrived yesterday and I now have 10 more kits ready to ship!

$60 plus $5 shipping.

Please, email me first.

gagnello@yahoo.com

sandman

06-24-2006, 09:35 PM

They are not ALL sold. I am still waiting to hear from some people but if there's any interest I will just have to make more.

Ltvscout

06-25-2006, 08:35 AM

They are not ALL sold. I am still waiting to hear from some people but if there's any interest I will just have to make more.
I paid for mine shortly after I received the message from Sandman that the second lot was ready Friday night. He already had it shipped for me by Saturday morning. That's QUICK service! Of course I got my custom upscale drop nose cone extremely fast from him as well.

sandman

06-26-2006, 01:22 PM

Had 'em ready on Friday.

Monday afternoon they are all gone!

I just oredered parts to make more.

Ltvscout

06-26-2006, 01:24 PM

Had 'em ready on Friday.

Monday afternoon they are all gone!

I just oredered parts to make more.
Paid for mine Friday night and I had my kit on Monday morning. FAST!

gilatrout

06-26-2006, 05:00 PM

I came across this resource if anyone is interested. Lots of Scout assembly photos.

http://www.yellowjacketsystems.com/jimball/LTV_Scout/ltvscout.htm (http://)

sandman

06-26-2006, 06:42 PM

I came across this resource if anyone is interested. Lots of Scout assembly photos.

http://www.yellowjacketsystems.com/jimball/LTV_Scout/ltvscout.htm

That's a lot of material that i used in the development of my kit.

Actually i refer to the above site for documentation in my plans.

sandman

07-04-2006, 10:19 PM

I had one kit left from the last run so I put it on Ebay.

Just for fun.

http://cgi.ebay.com/LTV-Scout-a-Scale-Craftsman-Kit-by-Roachwerks_W0QQitemZ280004072127QQihZ018QQcategoryZ2567QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

sandman

07-10-2006, 01:24 PM

I should have more kits finished by the end of the week.

Contact me at

gagnello@yahoo.com

Same price as before.

$60 each plus

$5 shipping.

Has anybody built thiers yet?

Has anybody even opened one up yet?

Ltvscout

07-10-2006, 08:10 PM

Has anybody even opened one up yet?
What, and let all the magic dust out? :D :D :D

sandman

07-10-2006, 08:57 PM

Ya know my wife told me with all the kits I'm selling to "collectors" I should make just one and fill it with shreaded newspapers just to teach you guys a lesson! :rolleyes:

Naw, I couldn't do that.

tbzep

07-10-2006, 09:21 PM

Ya know my wife told me with all the kits I'm selling to "collectors" I should make just one and fill it with shreaded newspapers just to teach you guys a lesson! :rolleyes:

Naw, I couldn't do that.

Just put a mouse in with the kit and he will turn it into shreaded paper and balsa. ;)

sandman

07-11-2006, 07:15 PM

Come and get 'em!

email me at

gagnello@yahoo.com

Ltvscout

07-11-2006, 08:59 PM

Come and get 'em!
I didn't know I was kittable! :D

Tau Zero

07-12-2006, 12:28 AM

I didn't know I was kittable! :DKittable, yes. Replaceable, no. ;)

Kermit "introducing" on the Muppet Show: "He's tall and slender with a really deep voice! Scott D. Hansen! YAY!"

Chuckling,

A Fish Named Wallyum

07-12-2006, 01:18 AM

Kittable, yes. Replaceable, no. ;)

Kermit "introducing" on the Muppet Show: "He's tall and slender with a really deep voice! Scott D. Hansen! YAY!"

Chuckling,

Tall? :confused: :rolleyes: ;)

DeanHFox

07-12-2006, 09:04 AM

Tall? :confused: :rolleyes: ;)
Well, "tall" as compared to Kermit! :D :p :D

sandman

07-17-2006, 09:24 AM

I have another LTV Scout kit posted on Ebay!

http://cgi.ebay.com/LTV-Scout-a-Scale-Craftsman-Kit-by-Roachwerks_W0QQitemZ280008510900QQihZ018QQcategoryZ2567QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Although I have a bunch left to sell here for the same price as before. ($60 plus $5 shipping)

Come and get 'em!

sandman

08-12-2006, 09:37 AM

I'm down to my last seven (7) kits!

I'm really happy with the response from you guys!

They've gone fast but the sales have slowed. I think maybe you guys are tapped out from NARAM. :rolleyes:

Since the demand has slowed these will be the last.

It's hard to justify me making more. It's a lot of expense for another run of kits!

If the demand comes, I'll make more...maybe...

I do have a bunch of "Tilt-A-Pads" left!

BTW...has anyone built one yet? So far I only know of one being built!

OUT OF 35 KITS!!! :mad: Come on guys! These aren't "collectables!"...or are they? ;)

Rocketaholic

08-14-2006, 03:48 PM

Very nice kit. I liked the movie "Logans Run" as well. I wonder if they will make an updated version of it. They should have Michael York play the old man at the capital cracking the pecans.

gilatrout

08-14-2006, 04:10 PM

Just finished this kit this weekend. It's been a treat to put it together.

Can't wait to fly it.

sandman

08-14-2006, 04:15 PM

Where's the pictures?

gilatrout

08-15-2006, 10:39 AM

Where's the pictures?

I'll try to post a finished pic tonight after work. I'm kicking myself for not taking a set of in progress photos. Oh well, maybe next time, or sooner if you get creative and release a new kit or rerelease one of your earlier kits. BTW, do you have a list somewhere of the kits you have on hand? After building this, I'm totally spoiled. I can't go back to any of the typical retail kits.

Weather permitting, I'm hoping to launch it this weekend. I'll post a flight photo and report soon after I launch.

sandman

08-15-2006, 11:05 AM

I have 4 LTV Scout kits left to sell and that's it!

All of my earlier kits are sold out except for the one or two I kept for myself...sorry!

I do have something planned for this winter or spring but it may not work out like I wanted it to...we'll see.

Two of my earlier kits were upscales of old Estes kits made with permission from Estes but they only gave me the OK to make a limited number of them (Yea, I went a little over... :D ).

I can still make up the parts but no kits for my BT-56 version of the Astron Constellation and BT-56 version of the Astron Sprint.

Just parts! No kits! :rolleyes:

Here's some pics of the Sprint (BT-56 and 24mm powered) The BT-56 Constellation (also 24mm powered) and a whole bunch of Constellations! including a 13mm version and 3 x 24mm BT-70 version.

I like Constellations! :o

Ltvscout

08-15-2006, 05:46 PM

I can still make up the parts but no kits for my BT-56 version of the Astron Constellation and BT-56 version of the Astron Sprint.

Just parts! No kits! :rolleyes:
Prices my man. Prices!

barone

08-15-2006, 06:20 PM

I like Constellations! :o
Hey, where's the Constipation?

Don
NAR 53455

barone

08-15-2006, 06:21 PM

I can still make up the parts but no kits for my BT-56 version of the Astron Constellation and BT-56 version of the Astron Sprint.

Okay......and how would one go about getting the parts from you? Like say, a PayPal transaction for a certain amout followed by shipping? :rolleyes: Any savings If I happened to purchase one of those four remaining Scouts? ;)

Don
NAR 53455

Tau Zero

08-15-2006, 06:31 PM

Hey, where's the Constipation?(mock dismay) So help me, if Phred at Excelsior sees this post... (heavy sigh) :eek: :(

Chuckling,

sandman

08-15-2006, 06:40 PM

barone, I'm sure we could work something out.

Let's do this via PM's

Here's what's available;

BT-56 body tubes...I have lots! And centering rings.
Clear payload sections to match the BT-56.
Bulkhead couplers either balsa or hardwood.
Nose cones...of course. They are the same for the Sprint and Constellation upscale
pre tapered and matched finsets for the Sprint. These are about 3/16" thick at the root and taper to about 1/16" at the tip.

I even have some decals for the Sprint. Contact Phred for the Constellation ones.

And...here's some goonies!

My Little Brother's Gooney joe, Ashcan Constipation, Apagoon.

Ltvscout

12-18-2007, 10:35 PM

Two of my earlier kits were upscales of old Estes kits made with permission from Estes but they only gave me the OK to make a limited number of them (Yea, I went a little over... :D ).

I can still make up the parts but no kits for my BT-56 version of the Astron Constellation and BT-56 version of the Astron Sprint.
I dug up an old one, Gordon. ;) Do you have any parts packs for BT-56 Constellations left? If so, PM me with a price. Danke. I got one of your Sprints but I don't believe I ever picked up the Constellation.

mojo1986

12-19-2007, 06:35 AM

Hey, Sandman, I never saw this thread. So, I know it's a year ago that you were selling the LTV Scout kits...............guess you don't have any left, huh?

Joe

sandman

12-19-2007, 07:59 AM

Hey, Sandman, I never saw this thread. So, I know it's a year ago that you were selling the LTV Scout kits...............guess you don't have any left, huh?

Joe

I will after the first of the year.