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blackshire
03-04-2011, 04:05 AM
Hello All,

While looking for more scale data on the Argentinian Tronador I test rocket (which I found--please see: http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?p=113725#post113725 *and* below), I also came across "Peter Alway-style" dimensioned drawings and decor scheme drawings of numerous Argentinian and Brazilian sounding rockets, which were prepared by members of an Argentinian experimental amateur rocketry group called "Grupo Artax de Modelismo Espacial" (see: http://www.grupoartax.com.ar/default.html ). The direct drawing links are below:

The Argentinian sounding rocket and test rocket plans (the links are on this page: http://www.grupoartax.com.ar/Cohetes_ar.html ) include the Alfa Centauro, Beta Centauro, Gamma Centauro M1, Gamma Centauro M2, Orion I, Orion II, Canopus I, Canopus II, Rigel, Castor M1, Castor M2, Antares, Tauro M1, Tauro M2, PBX 100/10 (test vehicle), and Tronador IA (test vehicle).

Also, at the bottom of the above-linked page are drawings of two Orion II BIO rounds, a Canopus II BIO round, a Proson M 1 round, a Clag I round, a Clag II round, as well as drawings of several ballistic missiles--the Condor I, Condor I A-III, Condor II, and Alacran. Below these are drawings of several planned and cancelled rockets. In addition:

The Brazilian sounding rocket and test rocket plans (they are on this page: http://www.grupoartax.com.ar/cohetes_br.html ) include the Sonda I, Sonda II (early version), Sonda III, Sonda III-A, Sonda IV, VS-30, VSB-30, VS-30/Orion (two rounds), and VLS-1 (satellite launch vehicle).

I hope this information will be useful.

Jerry Irvine
03-04-2011, 08:44 AM
I also came across "Peter Alway-style" dimensioned drawings and decor scheme drawings of numerous Argentinian and Brazilian sounding rockets, which were prepared by members of an Argentinian experimental amateur rocketry group called "Grupo Artax de Modelismo Espacial" (see: http://www.grupoartax.com.ar/default.html ). In the mid-1970's a member of that Argentinian club immigrated to the US and came to our rocket club in Claremont to find out where amateur rocketry was going on here. I could not understand his language nor he mine at that point, so through a series of sign language and paper drawings I managed to understand he was not a professional or model rocketeer but an amateur and I referred him to RRI and RRS at the time. Later I managed to actually fly a rocket with him at the RRI Smoke Creek launch in about 1983. Nice guy. They make AP in Brazil.

Jerry

blackshire
03-04-2011, 01:23 PM
In the mid-1970's a member of that Argentinian club immigrated to the US and came to our rocket club in Claremont to find out where amateur rocketry was going on here. I could not understand his language nor he mine at that point, so through a series of sign language and paper drawings I managed to understand he was not a professional or model rocketeer but an amateur and I referred him to RRI and RRS at the time. Later I managed to actually fly a rocket with him at the RRI Smoke Creek launch in about 1983. Nice guy. They make AP in Brazil.

JerryInteresting. Peter Alway mentioned in "Rockets of the World" that Argentina's sounding rocket program seemed to have as one goal the retention of Argentinian scientists, who regularly emigrated to the USA after graduation.

Except for possible amateur experimenters in Brazil, they have never flown liquid propellant rockets, and with their desire to produce a satellite launch vehicle (and possibly a ballistic missile) indigenously, Brazil is into composite solid propellant production in a big way.