When i have some time, maybe this weekend, I am going back to the A&S site and look around some more. Who know what might still be lurking there?

It is fascinating to see those European motors. Most of them I have never seen before. The Krueger motors were, come to think of it, very much like some of the early European motors. The motor casings were 16 or 20 ga high brass shotgun shells. They were filled with an unknown propellant that was white and burned with a lot of white smoke. (I wondered if it might be some variant of the KNO3/sucrose mix, but it was not carmelized like the old "carmel candy" propellant was. Fairly dense, it was probably pressed into the shell, maybe with the aid of a solvent of somekind. There was no delay train and no ejection charge. When I have some time, I will post a picture of one of the motors, and when ever I am back home again, a picture of their first kit with it's remarkable recovery system.)

I continue to be amazed at the things I am finding in the Forum, and the wonderful sources of information you are all helping me find.

the Fireman

Thanks again!