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Old 02-06-2008, 07:06 AM
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AAAAAAAACCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

What the heck are you doing up at 3AM dusting off old topics????

From what I've heard the 18mm D is permanent vaporware.
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:42 AM
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That thing has been coming "soon" forever...maybe they found they could not sell 2 SU 18mm D's for the price point they were looking for, which supposedly was going to be almost the cost of 6 RMS 18 reloads (2 paks of RMS18).
I think this one is about likely to see production as we are to see the Enerjet 18mm vaporware D21 entering production.
Tons of over-hype and promises and total under-delivery.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:39 AM
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This was going to be a cooperative effort between Quest and Aerotech. Once the Quest motor was fully on the market, Aerotech was going to stop selling their D21 single use 18mm motor. Since the Quest motor has not been released yet, the Aerotech D21 is still available for those who want single use motors (and the freedom of not worrying if the casing comes back).

If anyone happens to be talking to Bill Stine in the near future, be sure to ask him for an update.
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:31 AM
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Fred,

Aerotech markets a single use 18mm composite D-21 which retails for ~$13.

Apogee markets a single use 18mm composite D-10 which retails for ~$14.

Did you understand what was supposed to be the advantage of the proposed Quest D's?
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:16 AM
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Wow, the dust is thick in here.
So, any of you guys with connections have any news on when we might be seeing this Quest D I've heard so much about?


Nope, not a peep.

I did notice that the e-hobbies website now lists February for the arrival of the D18 motors.

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Old 02-06-2008, 11:25 AM
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Fred,

Aerotech markets a single use 18mm composite D-21 which retails for ~$13.

Apogee markets a single use 18mm composite D-10 which retails for ~$14.

Did you understand what was supposed to be the advantage of the proposed Quest D's?


The 'advantage' of the Quest D18 is that it would be available in stores where Quest products are sold.

That way 'Joe Average Rocketeer' could fly a 'D' motor is all his 18mm motor mount kits plus the Quest models specifically designed for the D18. Quest was to introduce a full product line around 'Advanced' model rocketry (Kits, motors, launch equipment). Hobby distributors like this.

Apogee motors are not available in hobby shops and the AeroTech D21s don't have a AeroTech product line to go along with the motors. Hobby distributors are less interested in the D21s for this reason (Some still order the D21s but at much lower quantities than other SU motors).


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Old 02-06-2008, 05:49 PM
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Bob,

Thanks for the explanation, makes sense.

But I have to admit I have never seen Quest motors for sale in any hobby shop.

I have seen lots of Quest kits, but never any motors.

Makes me wonder how many motors they sell.


As for kit designs, I know your skills. Can you describe some general concepts for kits you'd design for an 18mm D-18?
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Bob,

Thanks for the explanation, makes sense.

But I have to admit I have never seen Quest motors for sale in any hobby shop.

I have seen lots of Quest kits, but never any motors.

Makes me wonder how many motors they sell.


As for kit designs, I know your skills. Can you describe some general concepts for kits you'd design for an 18mm D-18?

The local Hobby Lobby had a few Quest motors when they were selling the Quest kits. Kinda hidden though. They weren't with the rest of the large Estes motor display.
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The local Hobby Lobby had a few Quest motors when they were selling the Quest kits. Kinda hidden though. They weren't with the rest of the large Estes motor display.


I don't think I've seen any Quest motors since Wilson's Hobby (and Dry Cleaning) went out of business in Huntsville, AL. I think that was the early to mid 90's. My inlaws live about 60 miles from there so I always made a trip to Huntsville every time we visited. They had the whole line of Quest products, Estes stuff, plastic models, R/C stuff, and other odds and ends. There were several other hobby shops that I always hit when down there too. Last I heard, one of them burned and never reopened, so there's at least two gone from when I was there. In addition to hitting the hobby shops, my wife and I had season passes at the Space Center and I tried to catch the HARA launches back when they launched at the old airport too.
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AAAAAAAACCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

What the heck are you doing up at 3AM dusting off old topics????

From what I've heard the 18mm D is permanent vaporware.


I was at lunch. (I've been a night shifter since 1986.)

I got to thinking about it again yesterday when I was cleaning out an old file of reviews that I'd started and never finished. One was for an Estes National Aerospace Plane that I cloned with a badly started Estes Raven kit. I built it with basswood and it had too much "junk in the trunk" to clear the rod reliably on a C6-5. Back in October of 2005 I had been considering ripping the 18mm mount out of the NASP and replacing it with a 24mm mount, but I wanted to see if the Quest D was anywhere on the horizon.
Well, tonight I ripped the 18mm mount out and replaced it with a 24mm. That should tell you what I'm thinking.
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