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John Boren Interview On The Model Rocket Show
Some tantalizing stuff from JB’s interview on TMRS 3.1:
- A new upscale using the 3” PSII DBRM nose cone. Which will it be? Here’s an edited list of most of the kits that used the 60AH cone, my guess is the Maxi Icarus or the Omega but wouldn’t an upscaled Patrol Cruiser Excalibur be awesome? Unlikely but awesome. Patriot Omega Renegade Mean Machine Blue Ninja Maxi Icarus Patrol Cruiser Excalibur Long John Silver Arrow Army Hawk Screamin' Mimi So what’s your guess? - the new 29mm F50-ish motor is pretty much done testing and coming in the next year or so. - a two-stage “minimum diameter” which I assume is BT-60 based, PSII kit. - as has been discussed many, many times the “classic” plywood parts PSII kits - Leviathan, Argent, Ventris etc won’t be back unless Estes comes up with motors to fly them. - Boren pretty much came out and said that the Mercury Atlas is coming soon. - glider and helicopter kits don’t sell well but John loves designing them so we’ll keep seeing them but not too many at a time. - a possible sci-fi kit that JB hasn’t shown management yet that he said was even more intricate than the QCC Explorer and the Black Star Voyager (his favorite design, by the way). - a possible new scale sounding rocket. - JB talked about Estes’ efforts to work out licensing with aerospace companies for additional scale kits. He talked at length about his personal Soyuz build. - some possible new building tools - I’m betting sets of the slip-on style fin alignment tools. - bring-backs will be one or two a year or every two years - John related he likes upsizing the bring-backs, they’re more interesting to design. |
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My guess is that it WON’T be a 3” Mean Machine. It would be almost 12 feet tall! My guess would be the Citation Patriot. A Patrol Cruiser Excalibur would be awesome!
If it’s a Maxi Icarus, I’ll hold off on an upscale. It’s one of the first decals I scanned and cut on my Cricut.
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The packaging alone probably makes a Bg MM impractical but it certainly would be something different. James Duffy pointed out on TRF that the 55AO cone has almost the same shape which opens up another list of possibilities - Big BOMARC would be awesome but an upsized Space Station Aquarius would be my jam. Maxi Icarus is still my bet though a 3” Omega would be ok too. |
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Where might one find this podcast? It isn't showing up on my podcast feed, and there is nothing new on the TMRS website. Hmmm, James |
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I’m a patron - we get stuff a bit early on Patreon. |
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The minimum diameter PSII kit is probably the one show in the NARCON video from earlier this year. I'm attaching a screen grab from the video that shows the kit, albeit not the highest quality pic.
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Turbo, I agree that the SO LONG kit is the new PSII minimum diameter kit. The SO LONG model is two stage 29mm motor powered. It uses 29mm tubes and a new long cone shaped nose cone. It will go over 3000 feet with 'F' motors. In the 'old days' Estes had body tubes with a 29mm I.D. They were known as BT-52. Hmmm. Another possible source for 29mm motor tubes.
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Badboy Rocketry already has the Citation Patriot covered: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3252543674...AAOSwBP1iW6u m (note that you need a Der Big Red Max kit and Sticker Shock decals to complete the rocket). I built one recently - it came out real nice (the laser cut plywood parts are of good quality) - flew it over the weekend at Sod Busters on an H128W - flew beautifully. |
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Here's a video of the prototype of the Galactic Manufacturing Citation Patriot flying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezc9_q-QnaU |
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Love the name! I am not sure I’d be too confident successfully recovering this one! I built a minimum diameter rocket for F15s this year, but have yet to fly it. (I have not launched a rocket since March, but may launch it next week.) I figured this one could be a challenge to successfully fly, but it will be streamer recovery. It’s hard to photograph this rocket. Color is Tamiya Fluorescent Red, the glossiest, brightest paint I have ever used.
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