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My Crystal Ball and Barry Tunic
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As i gaze into my Crystal Ball, I see new ownership of Estes Industries within the next year. Two parties, joining as one and a great victory for the model rocketry community. No, the portent images don't allow me to name who the two parties are, but look for signs from the East (East of Las Vegas) and a prophet from the North as two stars move into conjunction and Jupiter aligns with Mars The image is fading fading ... it is gone. Now back to your regularly scheduled program. Has this information all ready been discussed on this board? Bob |
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To whom do I send my resume?
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Dale, I think details will be forth coming around NARAM or later this fall. The parties want to keep things under the sheets for now. Also, the Classics release for this spring is being delayed until late summer. Estes has a huge backlog of product testing; a result from exploding pajamas and lead painted toys from China. The 'Summer' Classics release may not happen until the new ownership issue is resolved. That is all that my Crystal Ball is telling me at this time. Bob |
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What a frakkin' surprise (thanks, Starbuck!). |
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There's really nothing on that list of Classics that we can't already build with SEMROC parts, either as true clones, or as bashed near-clones. So there's nothing to get overly worked up about for any delay. If Estes decides to scrap the whole package (which wouldn't be a big surprise), that could open up the possibility for SEMROC to 'bring back' their own versions, which we know would be more faithful to the originals than these were. If Bob's prognostications are accurate, things might start looking up for everything 'model rocketry'. I can think of worse things happening than Estes revising its line-up with entirely new kit designs, dumping most (if not all) of the current RTF junk, and trying to regain its original customer base.
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Like I said when the Estes kit announcement was made, I'll believe it when I see it...
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But wouldn't it be even *more* more faithful to the originals to buy the new Estes Classic kits and then replace the Estes parts with Semroc parts only as needed? That way you'd be kit-bashing a new Estes kit into an old Estes rocket with the same name, appearance, and parts list! It wouldn't even be a clone, but the actual Estes re-issue with just a few parts replaced. Assuming, of course, that the Classics are actually issued by Estes some time this year.
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Like I said it is not going to happen. There was never a doubt in my mind that estes would NOT be able to stand behind there word and deliver the goods. Some things never change.
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Motley, I think we will both be happily surprised with the 1st slated release of the Classics! The hold up isn't tooling, or marketing, the economy, or Estes scared to invest the $$$ to produce the product (they already have spent the money needed for the 1st release); the issue is with the consumer toy testing rules that have gone into place after the garbage received out of China last year. On another note relating to such things, 60,000 new homes were made with dry wall made in China. This dry wall contains mold/gases/chemicals/bacteria that are destructive and dangerous to human health. http://www.heraldtribune.com/articl...se-drywall-case Guns don't kill people, houses with parts from China do! Bob. |
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Bob (and others), You obviously have access to info that most of us do not. The recent uneveness in Estes' performance (Shrox/no Shrox, catalog/no catalog, only starter kits in the big box stores, announcement of a "Classic" series which would double the number of kits they currently offer), makes me wonder what Estes considers a workable business model at this point. The big box market seems to be increasingly less dependable and the hobby store market is evaporating. It's not a problem with an easy solution. Perhaps the current Estes team is considering selling because they can't envision a workable model? I'm curious as to what Estes current thoughts are, and what folks on the forum think is a workable model for Estes' future. |
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