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Old 01-08-2023, 11:59 AM
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Old 01-08-2023, 02:35 PM
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Most likely "Re-Kit" Trash Bag-'n-Broom recovery like 90% of all PMCs.
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:38 PM
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I started a conversion back in the 80s. A BT-55 fits well for the stuffer tube. But it ended up so heavy, combined with the tiny scale fins, to make me just give up. That, and I gave up trying to put a good, clean paint job on it.

An add-on clear fin unit like the 1:200 Estes Saturn V would help.
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Old 01-08-2023, 06:14 PM
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PMCs are almost always TURDS due to weighing far too much for their size.
I have seen far more spectacular POWR-PRANGS with PMCs than anything else.
Usually vastly underpowered for their mass.
If one thinks a D12 will do, a E30+ is usually called for.
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SATURN PMC's . . . Cluster time !

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Old 01-16-2023, 09:21 PM
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Hobby Lobby currently has the Revell Apollo 11 Saturn V 1:144 Scale Kit on sale for $20.99 (40% discount). Sounds like another possible opportunity for a conversion to a launch and recovery rocket.


Yes plastic model conversions are heavy, and you have to select engines with the actual weight in mind, but this is a perfectly reasonable choice to convert. I would suggest finding a good sturdy clear plastic for the fins, and replacing the kit fins with fins that are a few times larger. Then paint the part of the clear plastic that corresponds to the scale fins. Or use a silver-colored sticker. Depending where you seperate the model, you can use a pretty large-sized body tube inside to protect the plastic.

Plastic model conversions have a bad reputation, but that's typically for jet planes that don't really have enough space for engines or for a decent parachute, and are really asymmetrical top-to-bottom. The base of the Saturn V has room for a D or a cluster of c's, (I don't know the weight of the model so I don't know if a single D12-3 will cut it) and enough room in the first and second stages for a respeectable parachute, especially if you break the model apart at the base of the second stage transition (which does require some cutting).
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Old 01-16-2023, 10:22 PM
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If Peter says it can be done, I believe him.
He is one of VERY FEW I would trust about PMCs.
I'd still go with an E30 for power.
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I've done this PMC with an Airfix SV in the late 90s, flew nicely on a BP Estes E15-4. Agree that an E30 would be even better. If I recall correctly, mine separated at the base of the S-II to S-IVB transition. I've also built/flown the Heller Ariane III & V kits and a couple of the Glencoe models over the years.
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Hobby Lobby currently has the Revell Apollo 11 Saturn V 1:144 Scale Kit on sale for $20.99 (40% discount). Sounds like another possible opportunity for a conversion to a launch and recovery rocket.


I just found one of these in my garage. Probably been carrying it around since the '70s.
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