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You made the statement "No, just the whole idea of DOLLAR COINS.... which have been rejected time and time and time again by the public who DOES NOT want to use the darn things! BUT some people just can't take a hint... " And I said this was false. I have engaged in similar discussions with others in the past who seem to use imprecise wording for the arguments they are trying to make or who mis-interpret the words being used in response. It is like banging one's head into a wall and I really don't want to play your silly game. I never said that you would find "proof that everyone had rather use dollar coins than bills". That is a lie intended to bait me into arguing and simply points out how discussing this with you is futile. There are lots of facts about how coins circulate or do not circulate as well as production figures and figures about demand from banks and businesses from the Federal Reserve system. There is also discussion from folks in Canada, Europe, New Zealand and Australia who are amazed at how stupid the American public is when it comes to rounding of cash transactions (to eliminate the one cent coin), and perceptions about one and two dollar coins (Euro in Euroland). There are numerous GAO reports on the web. There are the annual Mint reports with the "barriers to circulation" detailed. There are success stories from various markets where there is heavier usage of dollar coins. (Lots of use in coin op laundry, food service vending machines, transit systems, parking lot payment machines, self serve car washes, Amusement, etc.) Three of the big facts almost universally agreed upon (and in the "barriers to circulation" reports) are: 1) Continued production of the one dollar note (everyone else simply stopped printing low value "paper"). 2) Merchants do not order them on their own and thus the viscous cycle since most average consumers get small denominations in change rather than going to a bank to get them. 3) Banks refusing to order them and stock them for customers as "normal" money. The Mint can't control number 1 as that would reauire a legislative change. They can halp with 2 and 3 and have programs in place to help in a limited fashion. There are pilot programs to get small cities to particiapate in increased us of dollar coins, as well as the Military. And for those who can't get them from their banks, there is the free direct ship program. Zero fees, zero postage. Then there is seignorage for dollar coins, which is a profit, as opposed to the interest paid to borrow money when a Federal Reserve Note is issued. http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs...n=RemoveBarrier http://www.usmint.gov/pressroom/ind...release&ID=1144 http://archive.gao.gov/d24t8/141579.pdf http://archive.gao.gov/d37t11/148644.pdf http://archive.gao.gov/t2pbat1/154661.pdf http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03206.pdf http://www.gao.gov/archive/2000/gg00092.pdf http://www.smalldollars.com/ http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page37.html http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs...$1CoinMaterials http://www.usmint.gov/downloads/min...5_Mint_AAA1.pdf http://forums.wheresgeorge.com/showthread.php?t=108808 http://www.retirethepenny.org/ http://www.frbservices.org/operatio...y/new_coin.html http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...t-disney-world/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svc3emGXk3I&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdAH...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqJNkeaSoY
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The above is more evidence that Americans just aren't "with it".
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I usually stack pennies on a place where some passing kids can find them. Sometimes they act like they found $100 bill!
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With my bad back I cannot justify bending over for just a penny - so when I see one on the sidewalk I drop a couple quarters on top.
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It's time to give you a little dose of your own medicine... NO. YOU ARE WRONG. Luke Strawwalker made that statement. I have no idea what you are trying to prove here. Most of this stuff goes right along with me saying that coin dollars have been rejected by the public. Quote:
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As usual you like to get all ticky tacky with grammar or any other minute little detail you can find to correct or belittle somebody or prove them wrong. The links you provided are on par with what I said. If I didn't say it in the correct format, too bad. As for why I said it, you decided to get your panties in a wad because Luke said he didn't like the dollar coin and you decided to read into it that he was bashing the French and the Statue of Liberty. Whether it was in jest or seriously, I don't really care. Quote:
I think it's time for the ignore list.
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Agree totally, GH... Dollar coins are JUST AS STUPID an idea as pennies, though!!!! Yes, I know some people are just IN LOVE with the stupid things, though... For folks that support dollar coins, just look at the history of them-- NOBODY WILL USE THE STUPID THINGS!!!! Susan B. Anthony, Sacajawea, whatever, they come out to all kinds of hoopla, and PRESTO! NOBODY is impressed and things just sit around gathering dust until they're retired... IF dollar coins were an option PEOPLE IN GENERAL (instead of a few weirdos) actually wanted, then the first two releases would have been wildly successful and they'd be in general circulation NOW and people would quit using GREENBACKS smaller than fives... Sorry to burst some folk's bubbles, but that's just the way it is! I tell you something else that's about five kinds of stupid... that rediculous .009 on the end of gas prices... a moronic holdover from when gasoline was 6 CENTS a gallon! Pricing gasoline at $2.389 or $3.159 or other astonishingly stupid stuff is downright rediculous. When gas hit $5 a gallon a few years back, most of the service stations in Texas just dropped the 9 tenths of a penny off the end of their prices and ROUNDED UP. Everybody liked it, nobody complained, and everything was cool... but somebody in the GUBBMINT didn't like it and threatened to get the attorney general to land on em with both feet if they didn't go back to the stupid 9 tenths of a penny on the end of every gallon of gasoline's price, so within a month it was right back to whatever-9 a gallon... HOW INCREDIBLY IGNORANT... I think if I ran a gas station, I'd make all my prices end in 2--- $2.382 or $3.152-- bet that'd give somebody a STROKE! Oh well... another stick on the blazing inferno of stupidity that goes on in this country.... OL JR
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That is an excellent argument in favor of paper money. The government has to think twice before creating it. I am strongly in favor of that. Your advocacy of dollar coins for purposes other than the boutique uses they are well suited for (change in large ticket vending machines), such as regional park admission fee payments, are more of a hassle generator than a coin advocacy. If you intentionally annoy people who give and receive dollar coins, they will be used even less than organically required by utility. The majority of created money these days is electronic, not physical, BTW. Virtually any dollar coin problem could be solved better by a micro-payment solution using existing ATM and pre-paid debit cards. All of these factors will simply make your wacky coin and currency business have higher margins over time as they become more scarce. I urge you to hoard them now while you still can. Jerry |
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Just when I thought the Sontarans were wiped out (anyone else get it?) I can understand to an extent why people try to wage a war without completely destroying an entire population, but trying to be pollitically correct against folks who would strap a bomb on their 5 year old daughter is just rediculous. sorry for ressurecting this post, but I have had it up to here with hearing about how, instead of shooting the bad guys, we try to talk to them, give them money, and then they just use it against us. and it makes no sense why, when we could invest in more usefull items, we build 20 fighter jets, fly 3 and scrap the batch after a few years.
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AMEN to that!!!! Bumper sticker I agree with 100%-- "Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11" Later! OL JR
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