Originally Posted by tbzep

I went to the forum. I saw no proof that everyone had rather use dollar coins than bills. I know this much. I have never been given dollar coins as change when purchasing an item at any location in the US in my life. That includes about 15 states. I did get a couple of loonies in Canada, though.

Originally Posted by Doug Sams

Y'all are right that they're hardly worth the effort - can one financially justify the work and effort required to bend over and pick up a penny from the sidewalk? - but I still use 'em like I did 40 years ago

Doug

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Originally Posted by Shreadvector

You made the statement "No, just the whole idea of DOLLAR COINS.... which have been rejected time and time and time again by the public who DOES NOT want to use the darn things! BUT some people just can't take a hint... "

Originally Posted by ghrocketman

Fred-
I really like that graphic you attached for getting rid of pennies.
Those coins have been a nuisance since some time in the late 70's.
When you have to have a JAR FULL to purchase a taco or double cheeseburger, they are an obsolete waste of perfectly good copper (now copper plated zinc since 1982) that should be recalled.

Originally Posted by Shreadvector

Then there is seignorage for dollar coins, which is a profit, as opposed to the interest paid to borrow money when a Federal Reserve Note is issued.

Originally Posted by Cohetero-negro

Fred,

If there is one thing that I admire about America, its our Defense industries.

I drive a Kia, but if I want air-to-air superiority, give me a Northrop F-22 over a Mig/Su anything!

I want the most efficient cost effective passenger plane in the world, give me the Boeing Dreamliner!

We have the best tanks, missiles, UAVs, Subs, Space Warfare on the planet ... just really dumb generals and politicians ruining it.

One might say, Dunbar, you consider yourself smarter then a 4 star general, how flippant and arrogant of you! To that I say, yes in the regards that if I ran the military, I would KILL the enemy. See this modern pseudo warfare of the last 60 years is stupid. In past wars, entire populations were destroyed and razed to the ground ... that and that alone is how you properly wage a campaign against your fellow man:

You kill him, bed his wives, and kill his children... why?

Kill him - that is obvious
Bed his wives - to have new children so that new populations are loyal to you
Kill his children - because if you don't, 12 - 20 years later they grow up to slit your throat in the middle of the night while you sleep.

Today, we wage wars based on 'popular opinion' and what is in the best interests of the people profiting from sales or arms and goods. To put it bluntly, there hasn't been a good war since 1945!

One might way, well we are better than that now ... we need political solutions instead of hostilities ... that is the thinking of a FOOL. People will continue to kill one another until the end of our species. Freedom comes at a continual cost, plain and simple. And evil does from time to time take on human form.

If I were placed in charge of the war in Afghanistan it would be over in less than a month; and yes hundreds of thousands , millions of men, women and children would be dead. Oh Dunbar, you are such a heartless ******* and cruel. Yes. But the point is that if you are willing to fund a military and take the lives of another human being, age and sex shouldn't be a factor ... a human life is a human life no matter what the situation.

This is why I love the battles of the Old Testament, Hannibal against the Romans (Hannibal and his men in one day by their own hands, would KILL 100,000+ Roman soldiers ... think about that ... 8 hours of sun light and in that time, that many deaths by spear, bow, sword, arrow, and hand ... now THAT is warfare! Not the press of a button, or a fire-and-forget missile, but when you have to look the other person in the eyes and take his life in the process ... that is impressive)!

Point I am trying to make: we are chicken-sh*% when it comes to fighting. Instead of quick and decisive victories, wars drag on for decades:

We are still officially at war with North Korea

Afghan is not winnable (Russians failed, British Failed, Mughals failed ... ) with this tepid strategy we are now using. The land has been a constant battle field for the last 2000 years! Unless we go in and kill every man, woman, and child, it will NEVER be winnable so why are we there? What is the REAL reason? I will leave that up to the reader of this posting to figure out. Oh, here is a nice link detailing the centuries of wars in that country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Afghanistan

I look at it this way, an intruder comes into my house, I am shooting at the head and the chest. I am NOT trying to wound him/her or scare them. I need to use total force to protect myself, my wife, my family, my territory. As cold and heartless as it sounds, that is my method of operation. Maybe you are not so resolved, and neither are our policy makes, news media, and generals. And that and that alone is why we are still at war with N. Korea, lost in Vietnam, and will lose in Afghanistan. Notice how we won in Iraq when we decided to kill kill kill. Oh, the 'shock and awe' showed GPS munitions falling in precise locations, but in reality hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens died (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War)

See in order to TRULY defeat your enemy, you must be will to TRULY KILL the enemy (men, women, children).

And Fred, I really respect the products your company creates! Like I said, I want the best military our tax dollars can buy! Now if we can only find the best leaders and generals to go along with it.

Jonathan

Originally Posted by Dannycolossus

Just when I thought the Sontarans were wiped out (anyone else get it?) I can understand to an extent why people try to wage a war without completely destroying an entire population, but trying to be pollitically correct against folks who would strap a bomb on their 5 year old daughter is just rediculous. sorry for ressurecting this post, but I have had it up to here with hearing about how, instead of shooting the bad guys, we try to talk to them, give them money, and then they just use it against us. and it makes no sense why, when we could invest in more usefull items, we build 20 fighter jets, fly 3 and scrap the batch after a few years.