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Old 01-29-2010, 03:38 PM
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ONE pack only of each at $1.00 ????
I'd buy out the whole stock at that price.
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Old 01-29-2010, 06:53 PM
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Yea, but I have noticed over the years when ever Estes does a bring back there are always slight differences from the original. I am ok with that, the good thing is it allows new rocketeers to enjoy some of Estes older designs. The only way to truly enjoy the classics is to open up the wallet and buy some old vintage kits. For me, I will buy these kits and store them, don't know when I will build them since I have so many vintage builds. But I do want to support Estes and there attempt to bring back the classics.
As long as a re-issued classic kit is externally identical in shape to the original and has the same decals, I'm happy and satisfied. Some internal features of the old kits, though, are best left as memories. The old rubber band shock cords and the unsightly "slit 'n glue" shock cord anchoring method (used in #5, #7, BT-5, and BT-20 size rockets) certainly worked, but I much prefer today's Kevlar shock cords and internal shock cord anchors such as G. Harry Stine's "Shock Lock" and the "to the thrust ring or motor mount" anchors. Centuri's variations of the Shock Lock (tying or gluing the shock cord to a card stock rectangle or a thin ring that was glued inside the body tube) are also preferable to the "slit 'n glue" method, and they too work just as well with Kevlar shock cords as with rubber band or fabric/elastic ones.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:09 PM
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Heck, I still use the Estes Rubber shock cord method. I just bought all 4 new kits for about 13 bucks each, not a bad price for hours of enjoyment. With the new balsa parts, kids will build these like we did when we were younger. Remember, these kits are there to attract new people to the hobby. Once they are hooked, then they can build, and buy better kits online. I am still not too crazy about the white Bt. but thats ok.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:47 PM
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Is Estes being more generous with the shock cords in their new kits (a sufficient length of rubber will prevent "smileys" or "Estes Dents")? Also, what do you not like about their white body tubes? (To me, they always seem a bit "soft" compared to the older brown or tan natural-color kraft paper body tubes.)
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:59 PM
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ONE pack only of each at $1.00 ????
I'd buy out the whole stock at that price.


Amen to that. At one local WM I was able to get some motor packs for $4.50 a couple of weeks ago, but everywhere else where there ARE some, they're $5.97. The one I visited today had a spot on the shelf but no motors.
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Is Estes being more generous with the shock cords in their new kits (a sufficient length of rubber will prevent "smileys" or "Estes Dents")? Also, what do you not like about their white body tubes? (To me, they always seem a bit "soft" compared to the older brown or tan natural-color kraft paper body tubes.)

1. Nostalgia
2. I agree, they are softer than the brown, don't know why.

I think the last few kits I have bought from Estes the cord has been 1 to 1 1/2 the length. That is good enough for me.
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-SNIP- 2. I agree, they are softer than the brown, don't know why.
The white tubes may be made of recycled kraft paper, whose shorter (chopped) fibers could account for the tubes' "softness." Tubes made of virgin kraft paper have longer fibers.
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I think the last few kits I have bought from Estes the cord has been 1 to 1 1/2 the length. That is good enough for me.
For "A" - "C" powered models (especially using 13 mm mini motors) that should be sufficient, although for a scratch-build I would feel more comfortable with using at least twice the rocket's length of a rubber shock cord.
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Today I picked up an Estes "Classic Series" Hornet at the local hobby shop. Following in the classic vein, the kit comes with a balsa nose cone and an Olde Skool brown body tube [EDIT: I misspoke. The tube is a normal white one.] Apparently these kits had just arrived and I bought one of the first ones.

As part of the Semroc Christmas sale about a month ago, I had picked up a Magnum Hornet kit so I just couldn't let the Estes "new" old Centuri Hornet go by without taking a shot at it.

While at the LHS today I also picked up an Estes CC Express that I will be bashing into a Cherokee Double D but that's the subject of another/future thread.
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[QUOTE=blackshire Also, what do you not like about their white body tubes? (To me, they always seem a bit "soft" compared to the older brown or tan natural-color kraft paper body tubes.)[/QUOTE]


I thought them sort of soft as well. I also thought of the two I purchased (Ricochet and Star Stryker) that the diameter of the BT was a bit narrow to stuff a chute and shock cord into. (not to mention wadding.) I put streamers on them. Did they release some of the others? Plasma Probe, Space Eagle, and Vector Force? I only found the two I purchased and the Taser Twin.
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Today I picked up an Estes "Classic Series" Hornet at the local hobby shop. Following in the classic vein, the kit comes with a balsa nose cone and an Olde Skool brown body tube. Apparently these kits had just arrived and I bought one of the first ones.

As part of the Semroc Christmas sale about a month ago, I had picked up a Magnum Hornet kit so I just couldn't let the Estes "new" old Centuri Hornet go by without taking a shot at it.

While at the LHS today I also picked up an Estes CC Express that I will be bashing into a Cherokee Double D but that's the subject of another/future thread.


I went to Hobby Lobby today, but found nothing new except for a few RTF birds. Quite disappointing. I thought I'd at least see one of the Classic Series.
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