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Old 02-01-2019, 05:59 PM
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Default Estes Saturn V Flying Model 1/100 Releases and Reissues

Looking at various sources I found sketchy info on Estes flying model Saturn V 1/100 Scale releases (there was an non-flying K-36 sold at KSC) but, with all your comments, I think we have them down, see thread for contributors:

#K-36/#1236 1969-1985. “Saturn V”. Paper wraps, deployed at Nosecone. Had a clear plastic sheet to make slip-on fins for stability. Originally a three 18mm cluster. Starting in 1970, you could fly it on the cluster or 24mm mount. The removable mounts were inserted into a short BT-63 tube that butted into a BT-50 to carry the ejection charge forward. BT-101 in two pieces, lengths scaled to the S-IC and S-II stages. Motor mount at rear of the model. Renumbered #1236 in 1975. Looking at e-bay makes me think there are at least three versions of this box, the obvious major change is the Estes logo meatball from the pre Damon era changing to the current version. There is a minor pre-Damon change where the D13 is added as an option to the cluster. So there may be Damon era boxes listing the D13 and obviously later listed the D12.

#2001 1988-1994. “Saturn V”. Separated at top of BT101, and oversized balsa fins for stability. Motor mount was recessed about 4" from the rear of the one piece BT-101. BT-101 in one piece. Balsa fins a little larger than the K-36. Fixed 1 * 24mm motor mount. Basically an old Centuri KS-12 Saturn V with Estes plastic parts and paper wraps.

#2157 1998-2004. “Apollo 11 Saturn V”. This release was never in a catalog. Various sources say released December 1998, discontinued 2004, possibly with several kit runs to keep it around. Kit was like a #2001, but Included the Centuri wraps with vacu-formed fins, but not the Centuri vacu-formed display nozzles.

#2157 2010. "Apollo 11 Saturn V" Limited edition on Box, Not in the 2010 Catalog. Same as earlier 2157 but only change was to the Apollo Plastic Parts Set. The mold was reworked to remove parts that were used in the 2001 version, but not the 2157 version.

#2157 2016. "Apollo 11 Saturn V", Same as year 2010 issued version but issued with Plastic Fins.

#1969 2018-2019, "Apollo 11 Saturn V". All new wraps and upper transition plus lunar lander plastic model bonus. (Beware this is listed as #2157 in the 2018 catalog).

Any more corrections are appreciated!

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Below are pictures, in order, of five of the versions and a placeholder for the sixth, the #2157, 1998-2004 version I don’t have, and couldn’t locate a picture for it.
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K-36 had a clear plastic sheet to make slip-on fins for stability. Originally a three 18mm cluster. Starting in 1970, you could fly it on the cluster or 24mm mount. The removable mounts were inserted into a short BT-63 tube that butted into a BT-50 to carry the ejection charge forward.

2001 had oversized balsa fins with no slip-on fins of any kind. It had a single 24mm mount.
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I remember reading about another Estes Saturn V kit that was for sale
at the Kennedy Space Center.
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The KSC Saturn V was "non flying display only" and had a kit number of something like 1236NF or 1236KNF. Obviously it was based on the K36/1236.
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The KSC Saturn V was "non flying display only" and had a kit number of something like 1236NF or 1236KNF. Obviously it was based on the K36/1236.



Here it is: http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/show...t=Saturn+flying


I forgot about the non-flying version myself when thinking about the various Estes Staturn V kits...and the above referenced thread was one I started over six years ago!

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I believe JC Penny (or was it Sears) had an exclusive Estes Saturn V starter set around thirty years ago.
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These two images might help with the history of the Saturn V kit. The color scan is from October 1998, and the B&W scan is from June 2000. Estes did sales sheets for almost every kit, whether it made it to the catalogs or not.
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Looking at various sources I found this sketchy info on Saturn V releases:
#K-36/#1236 1969-1985. Paper wraps, deployed at Nosecone. Renumbered #1236 in 1975

BT-101 in two pieces, lengths scaled to the S-IC and S-II stages. Motor mount at rear of the model, with the ability to interchange between a 3 * 18mm cluster mount and a 1 * 24mm motor mount. Clear plastic slip on fins that fit over scale sized balsa fins.

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#2001 - 1988-1994. a K36 but separated at top of BT101.

Motor mount was recessed about 4" from the rear of the BT-101. BT-101 in one piece. Balsa fins a little larger than the K-36. Fixed 1 * 24mm motor mount. Basically an old Centuri KS-12 Saturn V with Estes plastic parts and paper wraps.

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#2157 1998?-2004? This release was never in a catalog so the dates are sketchy. Various sources say released December 1998, discontinued 2004. Was 2004 another reissue? Kit was like a #2001 but with the Vac formed Centuri Wraps.

First appeared in late 1998 as a limited edition. One or two more production runs kept the kit available until 2004. Included the Centuri wraps with vacu-formed fins, but not the Centuri vacu-formed display nozzles.

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#2157 2010. "Apollo 11 Saturn V" Limited edition on Box, Not in the 2010 Catalog. Same as earlier 2157 but capsule was redone I think.

Only change was to the Apollo Plastic Parts Set. The mold was reworked to remove parts that were used in the 2001 version, but not the 2157 version.

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#2157 2016. "Apollo 11 Saturn V", issued with Plastic Fins.

This version is that same as the previous issue 2157, but with injection molded plastic fins.

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#1969 2018-2019, all new wraps (beware this is listed as #2157 in the 2018 catalog)

Please help me correct and expand this, especially #2157 from 1998 to 2004 which may have been two releases but was not in those catalogs.

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Fantastic Information!!
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I believe JC Penny (or was it Sears) had an exclusive Estes Saturn V starter set around thirty years ago.

They did (Penney's) and I have one in my collection.
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