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Just so you guys know I'm not making this up; attached is Vostok, Bertha and Falcon + Fairing. Note the pre-printed wrap with NO grid fin detail but detail for landing legs. I left the foam legs that came with the kit off because they didn't look like they'd stay on for a flight.
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My guess is that the kit, which depicts the Falcon 9 v1.1 (the recent Jason-3 mission was its final flight [the new super-chilled propellants version, unofficially called Falcon 9 v1.2, looks the same, just having a slightly longer second stage]), came out before they started trying to recover the v1.1's first stage. (Even after those tests began, some v1.1 missions didn't use landing legs or grid fins because their flight profiles couldn't spare the first stage propellant reserve needed for landing attempts.) After SpaceX started testing the first stage recovery, they could have added the printed-on grid fins and landing leg locks to the body wraps of kits made after then (and added the self-adhesive sheet foam landing leg representations to them). Also: Some of the Falcon 9 v1.1 rounds that flew without grid fins and landing legs may have had no mission logos on their payload fairings; if so, your Falcon 9 and Fairing kit is already an accurate depiction of them. For those that did have such mission logos (or if they all did), you could copy-and-paste a mission logo that strikes your fancy off the mission's website, then re-size and print it as a decal. The Cassiope mission (see: http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...Cassiope+launch ) and the Thales mission (see: http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...9+Thales+launch ) were just two of several "sans grid fins and landing legs" Falcon 9 launches. Plus: Here (see: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvw56LqUJ4 ) is a beautiful, sunlit external view (with later onboard views) of the Falcon 9 v1.1 launch of the DSCOVR satellite--the staging, first stage post-staging maneuvers, second stage engine firing, and fairing separation are all clearly visible. This particular Falcon 9 v1.1 round did have grid fins and landing legs for its on-target, soft ocean landing (the seas were too rough that day for a barge landing attempt), and here (see: https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...9+DSCOVR+launch ) are more DSCOVR launch videos.
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I zoomed in on the picture and the printed details for the landing legs are present so this might have been a transitional kit.
I think it's fascinating that the Falcon 9 (the real one) has so many potential variations. If someone wanted to model all of the missions up to this point, they could have quite a collection of varied configurations. |
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You're right. SpaceX's very first recovery attempts (which didn't work well at all) involved parachute-equipped Falcon 1 and Falcon 9 first stages (the ones with the pre-Octaweb, "3 x 3 Merlin engines grid" arrangement on the first stage--their older Falcon 9 and Dragon model rocket kit depicted this design, but it had no Merlin engine display nozzles, as the Falcon 9 and Fairing kit does). Their early first stage powered landing test vehicles didn't have grid fins; they tried using thrusters for all maneuvering (they're still used for post-staging maneuvers conducted in vacuum and near-vacuum conditions), but in the denser layers of the atmosphere they weren't effective enough, so they added the grid fins. The first landing attempt with the grid fins failed when their hydraulic fluid ran out a bit sooner than expected, so a larger fluid reservoir was installed in subsequent first stages (this upgrade likely didn't change the first stage's external appearance, though).
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Gosh darn it to heck. All this Space X engineering history makes me want to start doing more research.
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That isn't even counting the Falcon 9 first stage powered landing test articles (I think there have been three in all), the Dragon V2 capsule with finned "trunk" service module launch abort test vehicles (one has already flown at the Cape, while another--using a special three Merlin-engined Falcon 9 first stage--will fly a high-altitude, high-speed launch abort test soon [at Vandenberg AFB, if memory serves]), and the Dragon V2 capsule that recently flew a hovering test using its eight Super Draco thrusters. Then, down the road a bit, there will be the various Falcon 10 and larger rockets...SpaceX's model kit makers and KSP (Kerbal Space Program) software writers will be busy for quite some time to come... :-)
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Don't be fooled; it takes a fair amount of prep work to get these ready. I've been working on the grid fins this afternoon and I'm figuring about 20-30 minutes per fin working with a hi-res internet picture of the fins on the computer. The whole thing needs to be cleaned up, thinned, rounded and then conformed to a BTH-60. While the material sands relatively easily, it is tedious work with the sanding stick. Looking at the landing legs indicates at least the same amount of time will be necessary. I'll post a picture when I'm done.
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I think your time estimate is fair. These piece are a bit of work to get right. I had to take a break for a couple weeks due to other projects around the house.
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The landing legs *could* be made of pre-printed, die-cut (or laser-cut) cardstock, in the manner of the old printed cardstock Apollo Lunar Module (LM) models that Gulf Oil filling stations offered in the late 1960s and early 1970s, but such parts would be quite fragile for flight use, even if they had internal frameworks to brace their cardstock panels. Another possibility (which Boyce Aerospace Hobbies might be able to do using their 3D printers) could be to 3D print the landing legs--*very* slightly under-sized--in a dense foam such as EPP, with die-cut (or laser-cut) pre-printed gloss- or semi-gloss finish cardstock panels being glued to the corresponding "facets" on the foam landing legs. This cardstock-glued-to-foam structure would be rather like the foam-and-fiberglass composite structures used in many R/C model airplanes and full-scale home-built sport planes, and it would obviate the need to sand the 3D printed foam surfaces smooth because the cardstock would cover them. ALSO: I've come across yet another scale variation of the Falcon 9 (it will almost certainly apply to the Falcon Heavy, too), which I'll cover in another posting below.
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